is 3 miles in 18mins a good target for a beginner's cardio?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by CrimsonBeast, Nov 27, 2010.


  1. Rob3

    Rob3 Member Full Member

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    I don't know why I'm bothering here but anyway

    http://www.thepowerof10.info/rankings/rankinglist.aspx?event=3M&agegroup=ALL&sex=M&year=2010

    Check where the 18 minute mark ends. Now you can probably atleast double maybe triple the number of club runners out there capable of running that time, hell times it by 5 since 3 miles is rarely actually raced. Still a tiny segment of the population who actually run let alone the broader population.

    I used to be slow when playing football at school, puberty, physically growing and suddenly being hit with a **** load of testosterone has just as much to do with suddenly improving. Not to mention football/soccer even at 30 minute run around in the playground level is a different sort of fitness to 5K running.

    Good on you if you can run 18 minutes dead for 3 miles, but you obviously don't have a clue what your talking about. It's out of the range of thousands of serious runners who no mater how hard they train will never run that time. There's a dozen of them I know personally I could think of right now.

    Running is just like any other sport, I could dedicate myself to playing football as much as I do running rather than the occasional kick around and a once a week 5 a side. I will never be good enough to play at conference south level let alone in the premiership.
     
  2. patch1983

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    18 minutes was 261 out 473. Again its not an elite time!!! There are loads of people loads who can run it who will never run a race in there life.

    I would bet if they made the 3 mile their priority (which its not for most) most serious runners will achieve it.
     
  3. Rob3

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    No one has said it's elite. It's far from it. What it is though is a time that takes either or in most cases both a degree of talent and the will to put in some relatively serious training. That's all. You've gone to the other extreme and said anyone can do it, when the truth is it is infact out of range for more people that it is people who are capable of it.

    If breaking 18 minutes was simply a case of being willing to train harder or smarter then far more than the top 20 or so at BushyPark (the most popular parkrun) would be running 18 minutes something*. This race usually attracts over 500 runners and is run every week.

    Anyway I can see the facts aren't going to get in the way of your logic. If your a troll congrats I bit. If not then just don't go repeating yourself out in the big wide world.

    *e.g. they don't actually go sub 18 just sub 19.
     
  4. Ylem

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    genetics wont keep you from running a 6 min mile but if your goal is to box.....your going to be quite a shitty boxer if you spend all your time and energy trying to run a 6 min mile.
     
  5. patch1983

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    I agree hence why I said to the OP to get in the gym rather then worry about running times. He will find all the boxing training plus roadwork will bring the time down anyway.
     
  6. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    im just pointing out that its beyond elite for some one training to be a boxer.

    while it might be alittle above average for some one who trains as a runner.
     
  7. patch1983

    patch1983 Member Full Member

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    I agree.
     
  8. repsaccer

    repsaccer Aficionado Full Member

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    I'm glad there's a voice of reason here, I don't think the majority of world class heavyweights
    can run 3 miles in 18 mins. Ideal middle distance runners build is pretty lanky, not ideal
    for boxing. To ask this of every starting boxer is damn ridiculous.
     
  9. charlstonbigspu

    charlstonbigspu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What I mean is I am not blessed with speed,so I wouldn't expect me to be able to reach that target. Where as you think everyone can achieve it.
     
  10. patch1983

    patch1983 Member Full Member

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    Do more speed work then. People who say they can't ever reach a target are always right.
     
  11. Jankrow

    Jankrow New Member Full Member

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    Did 3 miles this morning, includes a nice hill half way through, threw in some sprints and did it in 23:00 minutes.

    Sweating like a beast afterwards, aiming to get it 21:00 by Christmas.
     
  12. Slacker

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    I run a lot of 5K races and the mens winners unusually come in around 15-16 mins.

    Keep in mind that stamina in the ring and stamina on the road are not one in the same.

    I can run a 10K, but after 2 rounds of sparring I'm TIRED.

    Everyone I've talked to about building ring stamina says run HIIT or interval runs, then mix in some long runs.

    3 miles is not a long run. Start with maybe 5 miles on your long runs, work up to 10 miles.

    In the training videos I've seen (24/7, Fightcamp, etc) Floyd and Oscar said they were running 10 mile runs.

    Don't know if that helps.
     
  13. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you post here under another name Yle... I mean Nopee?
     
  14. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    why would i have an alt? I think ive shown that if i have somethign to say i have no need to hide behind an alt account.

    ....calling some one an alt just because they agree with me......lol

    as ive said theres alot of people who agree with me....they just spend their time boxing instead of typing on a forum.
     
  15. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn't say he/you agrees with you, I'm saying that you both seem like the same person. Both lack an understanding of basic things, have wild theories based on nothing and can't admit when they are wrong so they go off on tangents. You don't box, you play around slapping a bag in your garage because the people at the gym called you a caveman.