Is 35 the commonly accepted age for fighters being out of their prime?

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  1. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    Also you have to keep in mind altough some decline physically they can get better technicians and tacticians as they age to its harder to see.

    For example a badly faded physically Kessler was a better fighter under Jimmy Montoya imo then when he was with his danis trainer altough he was fresher in that version.
     
  2. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    donald Curry was in his prime before the age of 26 .....Tyson also
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's ****ed up but a person's heart seems to be passed-prime at 30. Mad stuff. Cardiovascular is important in boxing but maybe not as important as the stuff you learned between 15 and 29.

    Plus, the drop-off can be tiny and varies per person.

    But there is no right answer to this question.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Carl Froch was getting pelted around the ring by Dale Westerman in his 20s. Mid 30's Froch destroys him.

    You can be prime at 35. Many examples of it out there.
     
  5. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Depends on what they rely on. You see it in football (Soccer) players, those that rely on pace/speed/agility are quickest to decline, and usually they decline age 34-36, that's why Ronaldo is finished, but Messi isn't.

    Fury is was past him prime before 35 because his agility was a big part of his game.

    Joyce looks like he's in his prime now, he's not quick, but it doesn't matter, because power is the last thing to go.

    If you don't need to be very agile, you can fight into your 40's, if you do, then you're probably finished by 35, maybe sooner.
     
  6. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    I think that's where genes and taking care of your body can slow the effects of it. The drop-off varies from person to person, but there is still a drop-off. When you have a physically gifted athlete who takes care of their body, they are still hard to beat even if they have a slight drop-off.

    For guys like Tyson, the drop off was massive. He was slow and way pass his prime at 35. He was so slow compared to when he was in his early 20's. Jones was beatable at 35. Leonard lost to Norris at 35. Kovalev didn't take care of himself, so his decline came faster. GGG was still very good after 35 due to his technique, but you can see the decline with each fight and 40 year old GGG's reflexes were slow.
     
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  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agreed, but with one distinction. Physical strength actually improves in the 30s, especially if you are active. Old man strength is real. Everything else like recovery time, reaction time, reflexes, speed, workrate, etc. It all kind of goes down the crapper by the time you are 35. Then you see some 38-year-old dude like Beterbiev who is rag dolling people senseless. You can be strong for very long time.
     
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  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Beterbiev fights a style predicated on strength. At 38, he's as strong as he ever was.
     
  9. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    It was the same thing with Mosley and in his last fight, but it was especially evident in the Mosley fight because of the way Mosley fights.
    He just isn“t able to react in time.
     
  10. BCS8

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    Can't wait till I am 50! :coleman:
     
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It depends but it's usually about 36
     
  12. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd say with the exception of HWs yes. Actually I'd say more around 30 for the lower weights.
     
  13. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    As the decades have passed upper echelon fighters have been able to extend their primes with the hellp of nutrition specialists who also know the in's and outs of performance enhancing meithods whether that be legal or otherwise.
    More and more fighters in recent times have been able to fight well into their late 30's and beyond where past history shows that was less common.