Is 6 feet tall too short for a heavyweight champion?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was thinking about Sonny Liston because I was watching his weigh-in for his rematch against Ali and he weighed 215lbs compared to Wilder who weighed 212lbs v Fury, plus Liston had a longer reach than most heavies fighting today, could any other boxers that were 6ft like Liston become champ today though? M.Tyson was the last heavyweight champ who was 6ft or under back in 1996, I don`t know if this should be in the classic section.
     
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  2. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's getting like that it seems
    looking at that Martyn Ford dude guys are just getting bigger and fhooking bigger
    and keeping athleticism to
     
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  3. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    liston was huge in his day, try again.
     
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  4. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes. Even 6'2 is too short today. You should be 6'3 at least! Most HWs are 6'4 or taller.
     
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    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    someone will win a title again at below 6'3", but no one in the top hundred today.
     
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  6. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    I dont think it is impossible for a 6ft guy to compete in todays super tall heavyweight era but a 6ft guy would need to be a very very good Boxer to be able to get close enough to actually do anything without taking damage and carry enough power to bother one of these heavies enough to not just consider walking right through him. Or have freakishly long arms.
     
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  7. GDG

    GDG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Absolutely not. You need to have other compensatory factors, but it isn't too short.

    Are people seriously suggesting Tyson couldn't win a belt now because he's too short? In an era where Charles Martin did?

    For what it's worth Tyson decapitates Wilder too. Easy, short fight for Mike.
     
  8. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    prime tyson decapitates fury and joshua too. neither has beaten anyone prime with power and handspeed.
     
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  9. GDG

    GDG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd agree but I would give AJ and in particular Fury some form of chance.

    Wilder I give zero percent chance to. I don't think you Hail Mary KO Tyson and that's really all Deontay has. A horrible matchup for him.
     
  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In today's era I'd say yes it's too small, average heavyweight now is about 6'4" and 230lbs plus.

    Athletes in general are getting bigger in almost all sports, from tennis, boxing, football, etc. You'll get the odd athlete that is an outlier like Messi, Pac, Halep etc that find a way to compete with naturally bigger opposition but in general bigger is better.

    Plus I don't think there are many good trainers left that know how to teach smaller fighters how to make their size work for them. Maybe if there was a Cus D'Amato around today we'd see a few more shorter heavies succeed, but then again maybe not as boxing like any sport evolves and people did learn how to deal with how Tyson fought over time and this current era's closest thing to Tyson in Povetkin is still over 6' tall.
     
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  11. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    fury would never be able to keep him off that china chin. joshua might stand a 25% chance of winning. the other two are below 5%.
     
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  12. GDG

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    I'd actually give Fury a better shot than AJ.

    A 6'9 boxer with a good jab and exceptional foot and upper body movement isn't an easy match up for Mike. Mike probably walks through him and stops him but I don't think it's a fait accompli
     
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    Reg Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Usyk can't then there's no hope for short heavies anymore.
     
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  14. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    fury is a bully who will crumble when stood up to. this is why he ducked so many big opponents. he has beaten bums, a short face first brawler with no power and around ten losses, a forty year old guy having problems with the ex and baby, and one of the worst champs ever. not a decent win among his career.
     
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    A good big man will allway's beat a good little man so they say , an a good little man can beat a good big man . It's just because at the moment there is no very good little man . When Alex leapia fought Klitschko for da heavyweight title Alex just had no idea how to get past Klitschko left jab , Alex never been Taught . So it doesn't matter if ya only 6 ft , it's what U know . So how long do we wait for someone like Rocky Marciano or Mike Tyson to come along it will happen again " but when ... Big men have made the mistake of picking on a small man an paid the price not just in boxing . It can happen cant say it will never happen , don't judge a book buy it's cover is all I'm saying ..
     
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