Is 6 weeks short notice for a Joshua replacement opponent considering...?

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Is 6 weeks short notice for a Joshua replacement opponent considering...?

    Previously, I read that Takam had been informed that he would get the Joshua fight if the fight fell through, so was able to get a full training camp before challenging.
    Im not sure if that has been the case on this occasion, but is 6 weeks too short when looking at other recent HW challenges

    From what I have read, which you can never say how accurate it is but


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    Now Alot of this could be wrong and possibly and the opponents may have had plenty of notice before the announcements. I dont know.
    This is also not a knock on Wilder in any way. The reason his fights were used as an example is because he is the other current HW champion making and announcing defences of his title

    But the question remains that is 6 weeks too short notice or not?
     
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  2. ryuken87

    ryuken87 Active Member Full Member

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    It's less than ideal, especially when going up against probably the best heavyweight in the division. But given rewards for winning would be huge I'm surprised there aren't more guys lining up for it.

    (And the financial rewards just for turning up would also be huge).
     
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  3. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    I don't think it is. Unless someone is so unprofessional that they are in a Tyson Fury state which would take too long to recover from?
     
  4. Robney

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    No it isn't.
    Certainly not if you're not a mandatory and you just get the shot for $nM... 6 weeks should be enough to at least decently prepare for a fight like that. It's not optimal, but it should suffice.
    It's just weird to pass on such a payday, certainly for the guys that have never been paid near as much and it's doubtful they ever will.
     
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  5. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    I think the need to pass vada is the issue. My bet is they've all just paid for private testing and if that comes back clear they will change their minds.
     
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  6. de Morhalle

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    Quality post , I believe that all of them are indeed short notice , fights fall through all the time . However top tier boxers knowing fully that a shot for a title could happen due to injuries , drug abuse or indeed poor management should always be prepared for , openings that occur most boxers are aware of this and indeed stay prepared for such instances , ready to come in and either pull off an upset or increase their positions.

    The question I'm wondering is why is every PBC fighter is quiet and their management team saying no to fighting Joshua in MSG for 4 belts and huge payday with 7 weeks ????????? . I believe it comes down to US pride and embarrassment .

    Haymon and by extent PBC know full well the capability of Joshua and do not want to lose the one thing they have (WBC HW belt) , to Haymon his entire stock goes down if they lose to AJ . Remember Haymon said and I quote "No need to put Wilder in dangerous fights yet " unquote , this was when Wlad was ruling the HW division . Haymon threw Wlad against AJ and look what happened ??? WBA and IBO down the drain to AJ . AJ already held the IBF and soon after Wlad got the WBO strap . Now its Haymon's last stand against AJ and Hearn . Put yourself in Haymon's position if you fight AJ in America and lose where do the PBC and America really go from there ?

    Here is a maneuver I expect from Haymon and PBC fighters , all are either quiet or refusing the AJ fight . As soon and I do mean as soon as AJ makes the fight with Hunter or someone else (Hunter I reckon) you watch everyone of them start flapping their mouths about how they want AJ and call him a dodger .
     
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  7. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Wilder lost his only fight where he actually gave an opponent time to properly train and that guy was still adjusting . Lol

    7 weeks is the same amount of time Ortiz fought Wilder. Being offered a Joshua fight AGAIN , yes 7 weeks is enough and Ortiz has been active , there is no ring rust excuse.
     
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  8. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Depends on what kind of shape you are in
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    My post may not be completely accurate. I was only looking at information I found but not sure about the accuracy of any of it and if the opponent's had prior warning

    It's 6 weeks today until fight night so it may be 5 weeks or less
     
  10. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    depends on how much money you paying
     
  11. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If you’re a world class up and coming athlete 6 weeks is more than enough time to get ready for a fight. If you’re a Champ I can see why you take “OFF” time from the gym or if you just fought but otherwise it’s no reason for not be close to fight shape year around.

    So no, 6 weeks is not short notice.
     
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  12. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    i was going to post this point
    exactly my thinking otherwise it makes absolutly no sense why fighters like kownacki / ortiz would turn down such an oppurtunity

    ortiz only fought 4 weeks ago how could he not be in shape
    kownacki never looks in shape but he is very fit in boxing terms ie he lets his hands go non stop and i know in my prime that is tiring let alone 100lbs heavier than me and over 12 rounds
     
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  13. Boxing Prospect

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    It IS short notice if you've been out of the gym...but also saying "yes" to the first offer is usually stupid. Hearn will be shopping around all the Heavyweights, and most will know if the money isn't right now they'll likely get another offer in 6 or 12 months. Money has to be right for someone to say yes, whether it's 6, 8, 10 or 12 weeks. The shorter the notice the more they will expect.

    Would suspect some teams have a figure in their head and will accept if that figure is offered. If they know Joshua is getting $X they'll want a decent payday as well.

    Not defending anyone's decision but stating how things are. Eddie needs an opponent, they all know not to say yes to the first offer, the more Eddie has to wait the more desperate he'll get and the more money up for grabs.
     
  14. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Unfortunately nowadays it’s very short notice, since most heavyweights don’t stay in shape year round. In the past fighters even from light heavyweight would’ve been lining up to fight Joshua for a shot at his titles and the chance to make life changing money.
     
  15. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It was actually 7 weeks and 2 days when team Ortiz was notified. If they want to stall and then say now its 6 weeks so be it. Personally as always I know how to read ppl better then anyone ,and Ortiz will lose and he knows this,.

    give me the fight ? I'll take it just have me in an exhibition bout 4 rounder, i think I give AJ more trouble then the guys actually boxing for a living asking for stupid amounts of money and a 12 rounder.