Is a 5lbs weight advantage a big gap?

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  1. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After middleweight, it would stop being a MAJOR difference.

    Obviously down at the lower weights 5lbs is a huge difference.

    I'd assume Donaire must have 5lbs or more on most of his opponents in the ring.
     
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  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Only below 135, the room for rehydration gets smaller at lower weights so can't really exploit as easily.

    There are examples like Broner when he competed at 130 was gaining 20 pounds which is much more than usual for these smaller guys (10-12lbs is normal) add that he was fighting the small men at that weight.

    Add that he was in his early 20's, younger guys tends to get away with being naturally bigger and make the cut easier.
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It isn't a big deal at all.

    Take a strawweight. He weighs in at 105 pounds. Roughly 10 percent of his body weight is 10.5 pounds. So five pounds is about five percent of his total weight.

    5 percent.

    Take a heavyweight who weighs 220 pounds. Roughly 10 percent of his body weight is 22 pounds. 11 pounds would be 5 percent.

    If a 220-pound heavyweight fought a 231-pound heavyweight, would anyone consider that a huge disadvantage? No.

    That's why it is ludicrous to have so many divisions within three to five pounds of each other in the lower weight divisions.

    It would be like having a division every 7 to 10 pounds from 200 on up.

    It's one reason I find it comical that some fighters brag about being a three-division champ when they haven't even gone up 10 pounds.

    It would be like having a champ at 210. 216. 224. 230. 236. 244. 252. 260. 270. And Wilder was a six or seven division champion.
     
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  4. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You would assume wrong. Montiel weighed more than he did.
     
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    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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  6. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Some will complain the extra weight gives one the strength advantage and some will say it gives one the speed disadvantage.
     
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  7. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That fight was a decade ago.

    Donaire has fought as fight as 130 since then.
     
  8. nervousxtian

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    I’d say it’s more size that matters. Where’s that weight coming from.
     
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  9. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    Another big thing to factor in is skill level. 5, 10lbs will make no difference if the skill level difference is significant. These questions need to be framed as relative (weight class) and all things being equal (skill/experience/style).
     
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  10. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For Flyweights....maybe. For HW's and most. No.
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    It is X% more weight than the other fighter.

    The lower the weight limit, the higher %.

    Being that the difference between junior middleweight and middleweight is 6 pounds, yeah, 5 pounds is very relevant.

    Overall relevance to an individual outcome is impossible to gauge and is a case by case basis on how much is replacing water weight and how much you dehydrated to make the weight in the first place. Height, body frame, etc.

    But I am guessing, and I dont think anyone will disagree with this one, that in matches where one boxer outweighed the other by 5 pounds, the heavier fighter won more often (once again further magnified the lower you go).
     
  12. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anything under 130 I'd say it's a potential significant one.
     
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No, not upon entering the ring, no. It's not partuclalry uncommon, a different of 4,5lbs and I mean at any weight. It's bad on the scales though because if you weigh in at 175 and your opponent weighs in at 170, you rehydrate 20lbs to 195 and your opponent gains 2 or 3lbs only, the difference is enormous.

    But in the ring, no, it doesn't matter. Even at 105, if one guy comes in at 109, and the other comes in at 114, that's not going to make any huge difference really.