Is Age 23 "Green" for a fighter?

Look at pbf haters thinking canelo fought a prime pbf when he was faded and in his 5th weightclass and outweighed by 17 pounds in the ring. Not one of them even have the minerals to say canelo fought the best version of pbf because they know how stupid they look.

 

Teo wasn't green he can run hot and cold look at his performance against sandor Martin then look at his performance against Josh Taylor look at his performance against nakatani then look at his performance against commey. Look at his performance against loma then look at his performance against kambosos. He runs hot and cold more than any boxer in the sport today.

 

I am asking you about title fights set at a catchweight. I was specific about that. Hearnd and leonard were the Superbowl. No one cared about belts in that.

Canelo was NOT drained to 152 because he could not make 147. It was always going to be for the JrMW unifications.

Floyd had not been stripped of his JrMW belts he got from Cotto. This was a JrMW Title unification bout. And Floyd was a two time JrMW champion. Understand? Doesn't matter how tiny you think he was.

All Floyd had to do was drop his JrMW belts prior to Guerrero. He kept those belts you say he doesn't care about. And signed to unify BELOW the JrMW limit.

BTW, Canelo entered the ring at 165, not 170. Look, you don't like excessive weight gain, I get it. No one does. But a LOT of boxers do that. Hell, MOST do that. Maybe not that much, but most gain a lot of water weight. And it's not always beneficial.

So, back to the question again, you are fine with title unification, or even title fights like Canelo v 3G at 155? If TC had insisted at 145 for ESjr, you'd be fine with that? You were fine with Oscar imposing a limit for his MW fight w/ hopkins? If Canelo insisted Benevidez needed to make 165 for a fight, you'd be fine with that?

 

Great post.

 

That’s a sign of inexperience

 

I disagree. Some fighters just run hot and cold and teo is one of them.

 

You know damn well the logistics of PPV are different today than they were decades ago. Leonard v Hearns was on another level then ANYTHING we have for a while now. Don't play this game. And you SHOULD know that.

Hey, guess what, Floyd sold more PPV than Ali. I guess you would say Floyd is more popular than Ali ever was? Right? Because of PPV buys.

He was a two time JrMW champion. Read that again. TWO TIME JRMW CHAMP.

That is all that matters. Not his size. 6 years prior. 6 YEARS...he fought Oscar at JrMW and Oscar weighed in at 154.

And he sure as hell didn't drop his JrMW belt he won from Cotto, as stated already.

OK...so this sums it up. You don't give a damn. All you want is fights and don't have the integrity to suggest title fights be at their allowed limit, or at the very least, if ONE guy doesn't want to make the limit, his opponent should be in title fights.

You are fine w/ stacking in favor of the cash cow or more popular fighter with pull. You're just a glorified casual.

 

Just to take the pi$$ even more, Floyd’s JMW belt was on the line against Canelo.

“Oh, he wasn’t a JMW though”

 

I didn't cry about it?? The fight was 30+ years ago kiddo. AND I saw it live on closed circuit back then. Were you even born then??

You going to tell me what I do and didn't know now?? You came off like a smart ass about Floyd v canelo's PPV sales... *crickets*

I pretty much spelled it out for you. You just have no proper retort or reply. BTW Hopkins fought Tarver at the LtHW limit. Why would he need 170 against RJJ??

I never said they shouldn't happen. How's you're reading skills?

SOME OF US just believe title fights, and especially UNIFICATION fights should NOT be at a catchweight. In fact MOST POSTERS HERE shared that sentiment before Catchweights got more popular for title hopping money chasers.

Hey, no need to get your pantie's in a bunch. You're just being petty and can't form a proper reply to what I posted.

 

Oh gee, I meant to log on this site and post about it, but unfortunately, you know, ESB didn't exist in 1989. Darn. And good try. But the weight wasn't cared about in the rematch because people wanted to see them again regardless. Even with both passed their primes.

Were you even born when this fight occurred?

I never said anyone who saw the fight was a casual there Mr. ReadingSkills. Try understanding context before posting like an angry child, K dude?

You understand how analogies work? You sure aren't up to par with reading comprehension skills for some reason with the way you reply.

Yes, I was well aware of that. What killed the fight back then was not weight, but money.

This doesn't even apply to what I posted. Are you even READING anything, or just assuming what I am saying and going of what you make up in your head?

BTW, MOST PPV buys for fights of this magnitude are casuals. They make up a brunt of sales, not die hard fans. But I'm sure you knew that.

You keep trying to call me a casual now, yet I'm the one who thinks Title fights and unifications should be allowed at their limit.

 

BTW Steverino, when Mikey Garcia moved up two divisions to fight ESjr, he didn't demand a CW.
When Manny moved up two divisions to face Oscar, he didn't demand a CW.

When RJJ jumped from LtHW to HW, he didn't impose a limit for Ruiz.

And with Hopkins, he jumped up TWO divisions for Tarver. No CW needed.