Is Age 23 "Green" for a fighter?

Watch the fight. Clenelo was looking in bad shape. His face was more marked up than in any other fight including the GGG trilogy. That happens when a fighter is badly drained.

 

Try Image BB.

 

Why did Alvarez say before the fight that weighing in at 152 was no problem and actually would help him out because he would be quicker? Also, Alvarez didn’t make a peep about the weight he proposed as being the reason for his loss.

 

Nobody is arguing about the result. And I personally couldn’t care less. I’m neither a Floyd or Canelo fanatic.

Nobody knows what affect it had though.

In certain circumstances, even a pound can be an awful lot to a fighter.

It’s not like a pound of weight to us.

Even a few ounces can be important to a fighter.

Floyd should never have stipulated that C-W.

He enforced it between 2 champions from the same weight class, before then stating that he didn’t care what Canelo weighed, as skills paid the bills.

It was just typical Floyd behaviour from that period.

It was completely unnecessary, and he took the shine off his win, where some people will always ponder on whether or not it made a difference.

 

I’ve not seen it for a long time. I’ll have to rewatch it at some point.

 

Of course he said that.

What could he say?

He wanted the fight. And that’s the only way he could get it.

 

Now talk about all the advantages Alvarez had (other than the one judge who was clearly in his pocket).

Canelo was on an eight-year unbeaten streak.

Canelo was the defending World champion at 154.

Canelo was making his seventh WBC title defense at 154.

Canelo was approaching his prime.

Canelo had close to a 15-pound weight advantage when the bell rang.

And Canelo was fighting a 36-year-old welterweight who couldn't punch at the weight (and could barely get to 150 pounds).

How many great welterweights have there been past the age of 36? (Not many at all.) That's usually when the wheels come off the lighter-weight fighters, if they haven't already.

Mayweather wasn't a 154-pounder. He didn't give up his welterweight belts as he wasn't expected to stay at 154 even if he managed to win (and he didn't stay there).

Yes, Mayweather had more experience in bigger fights ... great. Most veterans have more experience in bigger fights, but most veterans would rather have all the advantages Canelo had.

I'm sure Mayweather would've rather been 23 instead of 36. I'm sure Mayweather would've rather had a 15-pound weight advantage. I'm sure he'd have rather have been the defending World Champion instead of the challenger.

Mayweather was an aged fighter fighting outside of his division. Hell, Canelo is a grizzled vet now and he's still three years younger than Mayweather was then.

 

Says you. For the money that fight was going to make, Mayweather wasn’t going to insist on a catch weight. In fact Alvarez proposed the catchweight and weighed in all of one pound less than his previous weighin. Alvarez didn’t use his weight as a factor in his loss because it wasn’t a factor. It’s up to the Mayweather detractors to make it an issue when it really wasn’t.

 

Lol not upset in the slightest,just saying any version of canelo kills pacquiao, which is true

Floyd doesn't know I exist. That's correct. But who mentions Floyd more on here, you or me?

I think it's quite clear which one of us has the obsession. I quoted one of your posts about Floyd, when there are multiple posts daily hating on him lol

Anyway I don't want a permanent ban, so I will leave the childish Insults to you if you want to have your last say

Enjoy the rest of your life lol

 

Perhaps, but who else did Canelo have major issues with? Golovkin. What does Golvkin do well? Educated jab and great footwork. To my point, Canelo may have gotten bigger, but he sure has gotten better at fighting guys that have good jabs and footwork. So, to all of you that say Canrlo has gotten so much better since the Mauweather fight, I say not against goid jobbers and movers.

 

green no

but did he get better yes

would canelo of a few years later have beaten that floyd, no way

 

Doesn't matter. Clenelo at 168 would walk through shots any version of Floyd and knock his ass out.

And no version of Floyd beats anyone Clenelo's fought from 160-175.

The bottom line is that the very best version of Clenelo is at 168 and that's far from, in both time and pounds, the 152 drained version he fought.

 

It's the weirdo Floyd fans who insist that Floyd fought and beat a prime Clenelo that need a reality check.