Is AJ about to price himself out of a fight vs the Wilder/Fury winner?

Joshua doesn't have "the better resume." He was floored four times and quit against Andy Ruiz.

Who else has "dropped four times and quit against Andy Ruiz" on their resume?

The argument that Joshua has a better resume is over.

Once a quitter, always a quitter.

He's one bad round away from doing it again against someone else.

 

Joshua's not very bright, is he?

 

Nonsense.

You can't dismiss all AJ's previous wins and achievements because of one loss, one terrible night which he actually avenged.

You can question if AJ is the best out of himself, Fury and Wilder, I question it.. but he facts are AJ has the best wins on his resume when compared to Fury and Wilder.


Personally when talking about splits, whoever wins out of Fury Vs Wilder deserves a 50/50 split, I know AJ draws bigger crowds, produces bigger PPVs by a very long way but the undisputed fight needs to happen and to make it happen and nobody "loses" in negotiations then a 50/50 split is the only way everybody can come out of it without losing face.

 

If you beat the the number 1 guy which AJ was, you become the 1 number guy. Making a guy who hasnt beaten anyone in the top 40 in over 4 years coming off a draw number makes no sense. This especially true when the so called number 2 has a weaker resume then about 5 guys in the divison.

If your last 2 fight results are so important that you ignore all that happend previously like you claim. Then how does going life and death with fighter outside the top 40 then drawing logically make you the number 1 fighter?

Surley the number 1 fighter is the fighter in the divison with the best resume and it seems about 98% of this forum recognise that AJ has a better resume than Fury or Wilder.

 

How has AJ avoided them considering all the offers?

AJs team have made 5 offers to Wilder and with every offer made at the time it was 3 x higher than Wilder career high purse at the time.

AJ has beaten 4 of current ring magazine top 10 when Fury and Wilder combined have beaten 1. AJ twice beat the at the time rank 3 (Parker and Povetkin) when he was number 1 and beaten an ATG in Wlad. AJ has beaten Whyte, Parker, Ruiz and Povetkin whom all 4 have stronger resumes than Wilder.

 

Are Wilder/Fury deserving of a 50-50 split? Probably not.

Is Joshua going to have to give them 50-50 to get the fight made. Probably.

Seems at this point it’s the only way the fight gets made. If it doesn’t get made at 50-50 then if I’m Joshua I just bin both of them off altogether at that point and they can kiss there big pay day goodbye.

 

Even the vast majority of biggest AJ haters on this forum admit AJ has the best resume.

Logic - a resume with in depth record of wins against the best fighters in the world and with 1 loss is a better resume than 1 notable win, a record fulll of wins of tin cans and no losses.

Going on that logic your not one of those nutters that thinks Ottke was better than Froch, Eubank, Collins& McCallum etc by any chance?

 

Look I can appreciate boxing science but I also can understand the business of it.

AJ did what he had to do in order to get the victory & respect to him.
He took a huge gamble to look sensational & knock Ruiz out in their 1st outting.

Had he done that he’d likely would have received his 70% to fight Wilder & the public out cry would have helped him get it.

Floyd didn’t become so successful by being A phenomenal boxer. He is a marketing genius who happens to be a phenomenal boxer. Never took unnecessary chances in order to protect the 0.
It is for good reason.
Not agreeing with it but that is the formula.

 

That's were Ring magazine rankings logic is flawed. How do you become number one after you come out mutiple retirement after a long lay off then beat 4 top fighters outside the top 40 and drawing with a top 10 opponent? It makes no sense. Yet on their logic their now current number 3 has beaten 4 of their current 10 whilst the top 2 have beaten only beaten 1 combined. It's a flawed logic.

 

Wlad gave Ibragimov and Haye 50/50 splits to snatch their belts, despite being a bigger global name and a much, much, much more accomplished heavyweight. And unlike Joshua, he was the legitimate HW champion of the world, head and shoulders above the rest. Joshua should concede to winner of Wilder/Fury getting the 50/50 split(as the winner will have a valid claim to being the lineal HW champion of the world), and It seems like even Hearn agrees.

 

My point is nobody will remember any of that twenty years from now. They will remember though that AJ did not fight the best out there.

If Wilder beats Furry, the pressure will build to make the fight.

 

Come on AJ, just take the 50/50!
Potential to make more if he wins convincingly then do a rematch.

 

Much as it's fun to argue which multi-millionaire deserves what percentage of millions of dollars, this one is pretty much played out by now. We can all argue each fighters merits or resumes, but these things come down to commercial realities and even once a purse is announced, there's every likelihood the A side will be getting a sweetener in one form or another that we may never even hear about.

The notions of 'fairness' or other quaint concepts won't come into it, rather the leverage each party brings to the table and their alternative options if a deal isn't made. We all know this, or should do by now. Meanwhile, we should congratulate the promoters for monetising the negotiation process and using it as part of their promotional tools. That's smart business.

Let's just hope the fight happens whilst the fighters are still in some sense to be considered prime.

 

The Fury and Wilder fans are hilarious.

What can they offer AJ?
What HAVE they offered AJ?

Not seeing anything coming from those camps to make the AJ fight.

Clearly only one camp is making offers.

Who will be remembered for ducking again?