is AJ an all time great

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  1. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    is he an ATG HW
     
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  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yep he is an all time fraud!
     
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  3. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    HOF, sure.

    When you start talking about ATG the goalposts shift. No, I wouldn't consider him an ATG personally.
     
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  4. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jesus Christ
     
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  5. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Depends on what you mean.

    He wouldn't scratch my top 20 ATG heavyweight list, but then neither would Fury or Usyk, and I am big on both those dudes!
     
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  6. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    AJ is well below ATG status.

    He's a decent top ten heavyweight contender, a former titleholder, but he's NOT a great fighter.
     
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  8. Thunderstorm

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  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    No.

    A bit below Norton, but in the same neighborhood. One of the best contenders post-Klitschko era.
     
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  10. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    he ranks higher than Wlad right?
     
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  11. DramaShow

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    He's HOF worthy but shouldn't even be considered as an ATG. The only Heavyweight with ATG cemented status currently is Usyk, even Fury is questionable.
     
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  12. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No. Beat a bunch of shot fighters plus Whyte and Parker. He’s now 3-3 against prime heavyweights.
     
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  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    No, he isn't. Unfortunately he didn't really do enough.

    He was only champion because Fury retired and I think history will remember him as a stop gap who couldn't beat the very best.
     
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  14. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As much as I LOVE Usyk, he's not got a deep enough resume at the weight to be talking about ATG at Heavyweight IMO.

    If he beats Fury then that makes a massive difference!
     
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  15. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    He wasn't an all-time great before the first Ruiz fight and his qualifications have only gotten worse since then. The answer is a definitive no.
     
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