is AJ doping?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Clarence Gianni, Apr 19, 2019.


  1. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    We had a thread a while back where the claim that AJ can be tested 365 247 was debated. NOT A SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE WAS POSTED BY ANY OF THE JOSHUA BUM BRIGADE VERIFYING THE MYTH THAT HE IS TESTED WHEN HE IS ABROAD IN DUBAI.

    All that anyone posted was a policy statement from UKAD and VADA laying out the procedures that they facilitate to enable global 365 247 testing.

    But these organisations are penny pinching Mickey Mouse organisations that simply do not have the funds to facilitate this level of testing.

    UKAD dropped their case against Fury because they feared that the legal battle would bankrupt them.

    You are living in cloud cuckoo land if you believe that Joshua is getting tested when he is abroad in between fight camps. Substances like HGH get in and out of your systems very quickly. Imagine how hard it would be to catch someone microdosing HGH. Joshua is a clear clear HGH user.

    People insist that Joshua is natural.

    Then you have visual physical evidence like this:

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  2. Emerald Oracle

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    As someone who is relatively naive to doping in sport; could someone explain how the likes of Canelo, whom is one of the wealthiest athletes in the sport, can get busted for PEDS, yet AJ doesn’t ?

    Also, VADA seem to pretty competent with the high profile busts they get, what benefits would AJ get taking PEDS if he is only in Dubai a few weeks of the year and spends the majority of his training camp in Sheffield?
     
  4. CutThroatFade

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    The Canelo was a mistake. Either legit contaminated meat or a complete Mickey Mouse oversight, maybe he was taking a substance that was clen when he thought it was something else.
     
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  5. Emerald Oracle

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    The people who create the performance enhancing substances are always a step ahead of the testers. Plus I'm sure with VADA you would only get tested when a fight is scheduled, so cheats can easily just use the PEDs when not in training camp.
     
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  6. Nicksp1976

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    You must be the one in cloud cuckoo land if you think AJ is taking illegal drugs. Just because he goes on holiday to Dubai, then according to you that means he is taking drugs. Do you think AJ would risk everything from his boxing status to his future businesses just to get caught using illegal substances? The answer is No.
    On his physical appearance, he is a professional athlete who has the best specialists in the game watching what he eats and drinks to what weights and exercise he does everyday. If we believe what you are saying then everyone who has muscles must be on illegal substances and that is completely untrue.
    Your exactly one of the people I was talking about - a jealous individual who cannot appreciate a supreme athlete and cannot accept someone doing well legitimately in the sport.
     
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  7. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    this...at last people are waking up to the fact that PEDs is as basic as taking a protein shake ....the bigger question is why WOULDNT they take them?...

    Theres a brilliant article on a German website with Momo Heredia ,a top chemist to athletes, and he loved creating new PEDs to stay ahead of the testers....You see they can only test for stuff they already know about ,they are always playing catch up....

    Why is Usain Bolt the only man in top 10 fastest men in history to not be caught for PEDs??...because he has the best chemist .fact
     
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  8. Davepompeydave

    Davepompeydave As bad as can Full Member

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    No such things as legal highs? Where are you from then pal cos up to 3 years ago people from my area was dying taking them. Can't debate with you if you aren't going to acknowledge facts.
     
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  9. BigDoofus

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    He has two fights a year so is probably in Sheffield for 24 weeks maximum. After his last fight he went to Dubai, Jamaica and Portland, Oregon.
    Jamaica has developed a big reputation for not testing athletes.
     
  10. Nicksp1976

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    AJ can potentially get tested anytime 365 days a year. He has to indicate where he will be everyday for 1 hour in that day and the testing agency can arrive unscheduled anytime whether he is in training for a fight or not.
    It's making me laugh that people's reason for AJ taking drugs is because he goes on holiday. Can you all hear how ridiculous you all sound haha
     
  11. CutThroatFade

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    This is the most cringeworthy post I’ve seen for a while from someone who clearly has no domain knowledge here. I can tell you haven’t worked out seriously before.

    I love how the retorts from the AJ bum brigade is just “you are jealous of him”. Of course I am. Which man on this planet would not be envious of a world heavyweight champion boxer?

    Evander Holyfield was also a supreme athlete who had specialists designing his training routines and nutritionists on his team. He was also one of the biggest dopers in the history of the sport.

    So what point exactly have you made? A point which carries no substance.
     
  12. Nicksp1976

    Nicksp1976 Member Full Member

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    Well obviously I don't know your back ground but I can tell you that I have knowledge in both being a sportsman and medical science so know enough to comment on the subject. I just don't like people accusing sportsman of taking drugs when they have no proof whatsoever. If your a person who can't accept someone being successful legitimately then that's a sorry state to be in but it doesn't mean you have to make up stories just to make yourself feel better. I'm old enough to remember when we didn't have a heavyweight champion in Britain for years so why can't we just appreciate it now we have got one instead of making up obvious lies.
     
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  13. CutThroatFade

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    That’s a standard that VADA and UKAD strive for. There is however no evidence at all that this standard is enforced and these organisations do not have the money to facilitate that level of testing.
     
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  14. Unforgiven

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    Joshua, and all the others, do use some PEDs.
    They do it professionally, within limits to pass the tests, get special exemptions (TUEs) for certain substances, and may use substances that have not been detected or prohibited yet.

    I do think Joshua gets too much flak for alleged PEDs though. He has a good aesthetic physique and people incorrectly assume that the guys with the good physiques must be the biggest dopers.
    On the other hand, Joshua has way too many defenders too who won't accept that him passing some tests doesn't actually prove that he's clean.

    On the subject of being tested in Dubai, while it's theoretically possible it probably does not happen, and Dubai is one of the most corrupt places on earth anyway. If you have money in Dubai you can pretty much get away with anything.
     
  15. Nicksp1976

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    Where is the evidence that these standard are not enforced? Canelo BJS Miller amongst others are examples that if you use illegal substances then you will get caught. AJ being so high profiled is more than likely a reason why he gets tested the most proving even more that he is completely clean.