is AJ doping?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Clarence Gianni, Apr 19, 2019.

  1. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    AJ is not doping until proven otherwise.

    If you have proof bring it, if you don't, pipe down haters.

    He's been on VADA for 7 weeks running now, not popped once. Cry babies.

    He has anterior pelvic tilt... not a roid gut... idiota's
     
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  2. Yatezy

    Yatezy Member Full Member

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    Questioning it doesn't mean we are haters.

    Aj is my favourite heavyweight and i enjoy watching his fights and have really enjoyed watching him develop as a fighter.

    That doesn't mean I have not question him.
     
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  3. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    There is a fine line between questioning and accusing, especially when someone is already being officially monitoried and tested by the same org that found caught Miller redhanded.

    If AJ being with VADA is not enough for you, then what can I say....?
     
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  4. Davepompeydave

    Davepompeydave As bad as can Full Member

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    Nice one mate. Good point. Have you ran out of Windows to lick and crayons to eat.
     
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    Some of you ought to see pictures of me in 2011 compared to me now. You’d think I’ve been juicing!
     
  6. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    Were you an elite Superheavyweight amateur boxer who had been training for years prior?
     
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  7. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just because something hasn’t been proven in the public domain doesn’t mean that debate and discussion should be suppressed. That’s a juvenile attitude. Discussing something doesn’t make people ‘haters’ either - that’s also juvenile.

    In a sport where 9(?) of the top 20 HWs have had PED issues at some point, it’s a legitimate discussion point. Joshua is in fantastic shape, has lots of money backing him and added mass incredibly quickly - obviously people will question it.

    My personal opinion is that he probably is using them. I think they probably all are to some degree but some are clever enough to hide it. I can’t prove it, I’m just a guy on this forum. I’m also no PED expert either - however discussing it on a forum doesn’t make me a ‘hater’ and the fact there’s no proof we’re aware of doesn’t mean it can’t be discussed.
     
  8. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Given recent events.... Miller and AJ are both signed on with VADA.

    Miller got popped.

    AJ did not get popped.

    These leaves three explanations:
    • AJ bribed VADA
    • AJ has an expensive chemist who designed a PED untraceable by labs used by VADA
    • AJ is clean

    And because people are questioning the first two implasuble explanations, and ignoring the simplest one (third).... I have too assume that no matter what... people will not give the benefit of the doubt ergo haters.

    To bribe VADA, or get an expensive chemist would require (i imagine) a HELL of a lot of money, with the latter option being tremendously complex. But due to the ignorance of many posters on this forum who cannot comprehend what chemistry or pathology is all about.... it's SO EASY to just be like "Yeah they made a new drug innit bruv, can't detect it."
     
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  9. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've just read your many posts on the other thread and I don't have the time, inclination or knowledge to debate PEDs with you. I don't know enough about it. I don't think working with VADA totally removes any possibility of PED use though and I don't think surpressing debate on it is useful either - it will inevitably be debated when PEDs have such an impact on the sport.
     
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  10. kojak

    kojak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    HW scene especially will look like the 100m in athletics in a few more years imo with VADA around.

    Out of the top 20 fastest 100m times ever, its virtually only Bolt who hadn't been caught using PEDs. I don't believe he was clean either, especially when Jamaica had non-existent out of competition testing for some time, then all of a sudden most of the track team both men and women started getting tested and failed.

    You see some top boxers who carry there power all the way into the later rounds, against people who at a lower level who punch hard but don't carry it late, due to severe fatigue. For me that's an obvious red-flag.

    You only need to look at the transformation of some boxers physiques over the course of a few years to know it's most likely not natural.
     
  11. BXNG101

    BXNG101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lools, bruv they is mad trust me, dey iz all h8rz

    It really isnt out of the realms of possiblity that a heavyweight boxer that looks like AJ is on some sort of cocktail of drugs that cannot be detected and it really isnt hard to be on some sort of undetectable cycle that ensures no tests will be failed. Don't know why people are naive about it.

    Many greats have been caught before and they will continue to be caught. History is littered with athletes being caught time and time again. Of course, sIgning up to VADA is a step in the right direction but that doesn't mean every athlete that passes a drugs test, is clean.

    Eddie Hearn keeps repeating this line about how AJ will never fail a drugs test. Lance Armstrong the cheating so and so didnt fail a drugs test for donkeys years and look what happened to him. Look at what happened to Team Sky and the GB cycling team. Look at Mo Farah, Look at all the top 10 100m runners over the last 20 years. When the rewards are that high, you generally do anything do stay at the top.

    Enough of this nonsense about how AJ gets tested 24/7, even in his sleep so he must be clean.
     
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    When your wrong just admit it, take it on the chin and move on. It’s okay

    Nobody is perfect fella.
     
  13. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Right, to end this discussion:

    AJ is either clean or not clean.

    Goodnight guys.
     
  14. Davepompeydave

    Davepompeydave As bad as can Full Member

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    Zzz practise what you preach.
     
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    How many times was he tested during his extensive vacation in Dubai, Jamaica and Portland?
    Which prohibited substances is he allowed through TUE's?