Is AJ qutting against Andy Ruiz the most embarrasing loss in boxing history

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  1. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought of that one. It's not as embarrassing if you know the back story which I believe was his promoter saying he wouldn't be paid or something like that just before the fight. If I recall, Harper was in a gutsy slugfest shortly after.
     
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  2. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It also ranks very high in the embarrassment thread (this one). Show 100 casuals who they think wins the fight between Joshua and Ruiz and 99 of them pick Joshua. Add in the 25-1 odds and the magnitude of the event and the manner in which it was concluded, and you have a top 10 embarrassing loss.
     
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You should start a thread on "Fights where most causals out of a 100 would have been wrong".
     
  4. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You seem upset and unchill that I pointed out that your "wouldn't crack the top 1,000" comment was absurd. It's a massively embarrassing loss. Easily the most embarrassing in the past decade. I don't understand the point of downplaying it.

    I look forward to the thread listing 1,000 more embarrassing losses.
     
  5. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    It could definitely be done. But it'd be even more embarrassing for you than any of the fighters featured I'd wager. This is an absolute abomination of a thread but no way the board is that committed to collectively humiliating one poster for something that's stupid rather than actually offensive :facepalm:
     
  6. Braindamage

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    Fury losing to Ngannou. Sure, he got the decision, but to struggle with a first timer? LOL. That is far more embarrassing than the AJ loss to Ruiz. Throw in the fact that AJ destroyed Ngannou, Fury looks like a fool.
     
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  7. McGrain

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    Well as I said, nobody's making that list. It would be meaningless for you anyway - for you, Joshua's loss is genuinely more embarrassing than a grown man being dragged out of a crackden where he was smoking crack with literal crack-whores before crying in the ring. If that's the standard for how embarrassing you think that fight was, there's possibly no topping it. What happened to AJ was essentially that he got hit hard by a number of heavyweight punches and didn't really like it very much. This is has occurred numerous times and something like it will probably happen next week.

    I just don't agree that it's one of the most embarrassing things that has ever occurred. I was glad Ruiz beat Joshua and I thought he made a fool of himself, but to equate it with turning up to fight pissed, or weeping in a drug-fueled breakdown, or running away without throwing a punch just seems more about hating the fighter that lost than it does reality.
     
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  8. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think people who are mentally unwell, and as you described have literally been pulled out of a crack den to perform when they should be in a hospital, should feel embarrassed.

    I do think that if someone who is of sound mind, engaged in a blood sport with a billion dollar promotion behind him, decides he "doesn't like getting punched" by an inferior (his words) opponent, he should feel embarrassed.
     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, you're wrong though. If your dad was in a crackden with crackwhores, and then cried at his work, i promise you you'd be more embarrassed of him than if he got beat up by a fat man.

    But i've already said, you've been clear: i couldn't disagree with you more. Look, i don't know what to tell you, i think reporting to the ring high on crack or pissed is more embarrassing for a professional sportsman than getting hit and hurt and quitting. I just think that. You think that's wrong because of mental illness. OK then. I understand.
     
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  10. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My family is not involved in professional boxing, so the analogy doesn't work. I'm a spectator on the outside. As a spectator I feel sorry for McCall - he had predatory people around him and clearly shouldn't have been cleared to fight that night. Similarly as a spectator, I felt embarrassed for Joshua. This was his big coming out party and all the money was in the pot on a sure thing. To watch him decide he "doesn't like getting punched" in front of everyone and look for a way out that didn't involve his fists is an embarrassment that no warrior wants to suffer (this is why most fighters would say, and truly mean, that they'd die in there).

    Happy to agree to disagree.
     
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  11. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the happy new year was a product of being ragdolled by Usyk — concussion.

    blaming the decision on the war was pathetic. It was so pathetic that my 6yr old, alongside me as we watched, said “why’s he such a sore loser?”
     
  12. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well if someone is beaten up over and over and the cornermen have too much guts for their fighter who is going to protect the fighter? If he is overmatched even the boxer with the biggest heart can say this is it. I cannot take this anymore. It is instinct.
     
  13. The one

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    The referee and Ringside doctor should be protecting the fighter.
     
  14. Mugen38

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    Luke the Gypsy Queens unofficial loss to Ngannou has to be up there

    Imagine claiming to be the best heavyweight that's ever lived & getting dropped & squeaking by with a split decision against a 37 year old boxing debutant with a bad knee.He should've lost by unanimous decision as he was knocked down twice in that fight (one was ignored by the ref) & he should've been docked a point for throwing a blatant, illegal elbow

    Beyond pathetic!