is AJ really juicing?

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  1. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would yes. If they had problems with how they did testing, I can bet my hat that the government in the UK would be having none of it and moaning about 'sports reforms'. But they aren't moaning about 'sports reforms' and 'improving doping in boxing'. So it's safe to say UKAD/BBBoC are doing their jobs effectively. Everything is as strict as it gets when it comes to UK doping controls. The government have helped to evolve that over the past 10 years or so. So yes, I would trust them with my life. Especially UKAD, who are always being reviewed by the government.
     
  2. Work the body

    Work the body Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just because he is passing tests doesn’t mean he isn’t doping. Look at Lance Armstrong he passed every one.

    You have to give him the benefit of the doubt though.
     
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    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  4. oiky

    oiky Gypsy Boy Full Member

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    Yes, to the gills, v naive to think not
     
  5. mb1233

    mb1233 Active Member Full Member

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    Does he earn more than Canelo?
     
  6. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Some people simply have better genetics. Even as an amateur he had a heavily muscular physique, and you are drug tested extensively. I see no reason to suspect him, you really can’t tell a thing from looking at someone’s physique.
     
  7. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His system is flushed when it comes time to drug test during the fight camp. He isn't tested 365 days a year and drugs can be masked from appearing on a test. Drug testing is ALWAYS playing catch up with new drugs and methods of hiding those drugs. This is far from conspiracy as well. Anyone who thinks a few drugs tests during a 8 week camp means you are clean are just deluding themselves.

    Parker, Wilder, Povektin, and Ortiz are all on something.
     
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    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is still no reliable test for HGH. I'm not aware of any athletes testing positive for HGH despite it's performance benefits. Does that mean nobody is on HGH? No. It means it still can't be tested for
     
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  9. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Innocent until proved guilty, if he is juicing to get big 'n' strong it is having a negative effect on him gassing in second half of fight.

    If he is juicing then i'd like to hear what positives he is getting, as he was a big ol unit anyway, was naturally athletic, and frankly if he is on peds then i suggest he asks for his money back.

    The guy would be making a massive financial gamble if he is juicing, he is top of the heavyweight tree with regard to the financial rewards it brings, a positive test takes that away in a instant.

    So i say he is not juicing now, whether he has in past i don't know.
     
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    Boxingfan200 USYK #1 P4P banned Full Member

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    it wouldn't surprise me if he is. but innocent until proven guilty..
     
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    povetkin an ortizmaybe... but parker and wilder I doubt it..
     
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    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Is ice really cold?

    Also, thread starter is obviously CJ whom I'm guessing had his regular account banned and now is back as CJH.
     
  14. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I say yes. Not even through his physique. The last heavyweight champion that looked as dominant was probably Tyson. We seen what Tyson went through to get to that level tho. They basically trained him like a professional from 14 years old with one goal in mind to become the heavyweight champion. They obsessed about it. Everything they done was about achieving that goal. Had a trainer who was a way ahead of his time with world championship experience. Really intese training from the start. With Joshua he walked through the doors at 17 never been in a boxing gym before it. Didnt have a trainer near cus d,mato,s level. Didn't have the same type of 24/7 obsession. And suddenly becomes the most dominant heavyweight since Tyson. I don't buy it. Tyson was also a very skilled fighter who they trained using a system that opponents struggled to deal with. He wasn't just winning fights with his power. Joshuas boxing skills are pretty basic in comparison...hes still getting the same results tho.

    Tyson had trained a lot harder for a lot longer than his opponents from youth all the way to winning that world championship. It does explain why he was so dominant.

    Joshua trains hard himself but I bet its pretty similar to most of the top heavyweights today. A lot of them are training two/three times a day. They still look like they can't get near to matching his power/explosiveness/probably even his stamina if we,re being honest. Every other dominant champion had that high skill level...Joshua doesn't have it...what he does have is great attributes that can be enhanced through the use of PEDs.

    His weaknesses are all things PEDs don' really help.
     
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  15. Heavyrighthand

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