Whats your opinions on Ariza? Personally i think he gets overrated a bit but i'll admit apart from Manny, Chino and Khan i don't know who else he really worked with. Most people claim he is good cus of pac, well to be honest pac was still a ****ing beast under his previous s & c trainer ******e Fortune. He didn't look all that in the Bradley fight but that very well could be age taking it's toll plus all the wars he's been in. Khan imo didn't really change that drastically. Maidana did improve but again imo that was more about Robert Garcia teaching him how to box properly rather than Ariza's conditioning (although improving his stamina did play a big part). What are your thoughts?