Is Ali the HW GOAT?

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Is Ali the HW goat?

  1. Yes

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    78.9%

  2. No

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    21.1%
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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Looking forward to the hate campaign waged against Crawford for saying this. That's coming directly from his mouth

    “I'm not going to say if – but when I beat Canelo Alvarez, I think I'll be a top three pound-for-pound fighter of all time with Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali.''

    --Terence Crawford
     
    Serge, May 29, 2025 at 12:02 PM
    Serge, May 29, 2025 at 12:02 PM
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  2. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. It's whoever is the tallest boxer now. Because size queens say so....
     
    The Real Lance, May 29, 2025 at 12:10 PM
    The Real Lance, May 29, 2025 at 12:10 PM
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  3. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog submit to Buc-ee's Full Member

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    Him or Joe Louis and only Joe based on some conversations I've seen in Classic.
     
    Salty Dog, May 29, 2025 at 8:58 PM
    Salty Dog, May 29, 2025 at 8:58 PM
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  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I nor anyone here said that crap captain obvious
     
    MarkusFlorez99, May 29, 2025 at 11:00 PM
    MarkusFlorez99, May 29, 2025 at 11:00 PM
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    3rd undisputed after gifting his belt to win it back. It means nothing, and notice it's a rematch. Retiring undefeated but that streak of wins doesn't get covered. It's Fury, joshua, dubois, chiosra that isn't hw goat
     
    MarkusFlorez99, May 29, 2025 at 11:35 PM
    MarkusFlorez99, May 29, 2025 at 11:35 PM
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It means nothing to you. It doesn't mean "nothing" to Usyk, or to history.
     
    catchwtboxing, May 30, 2025 at 4:56 PM
    catchwtboxing, May 30, 2025 at 4:56 PM
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  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because the people who rate it as extraordinary don't know the context. Dubois won the belt because Hearn had Usyk stripped so joshua could be 2 time champ, only for aj to get pummelled, and Dubois ducked Parker
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/a...-ibf-world-title-daniel-dubois-anthony-joshua
    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/oleksandr-usyk-tyson-fury-eddie-hearn-b2553121.html
    Usyk even wanted to keep the belt at first
    https://sports.yahoo.com/usyks-team-ask-ibf-exception-182124949.html
    https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-ne...earn believes Usyk (22-0,will be for no belts.
     
    MarkusFlorez99, May 30, 2025 at 5:09 PM
    MarkusFlorez99, May 30, 2025 at 5:09 PM
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, people understand the context just fine.
     
    catchwtboxing, May 30, 2025 at 5:48 PM
    catchwtboxing, May 30, 2025 at 5:48 PM
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  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not everyone. Dubois retuning his gifted belt to its sender isn't special especially when Parker deserves it more. Maybe to you
     
    MarkusFlorez99, May 30, 2025 at 5:56 PM
    MarkusFlorez99, May 30, 2025 at 5:56 PM
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  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It doesn't have to be "everyone." Anyone who wants to sit on the sidelines and stink out the joint is welcome. Look, I have been advocating for Parker longer than anyone, but it's Dubois, and that is for reasons that Usyk finds meaningful to him, namely triple undisputed, and defending his honor. It makes perfect sense, and I hope he moves on to Parker next. But yeah, people used to admire guys who wanted to unify.
     
    catchwtboxing, May 30, 2025 at 8:59 PM
    catchwtboxing, May 30, 2025 at 8:59 PM
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He gifted Dubois the belt verbatim, this is a rematch against someone he already beat by stoppage
     
    MarkusFlorez99, May 30, 2025 at 9:17 PM
    MarkusFlorez99, May 30, 2025 at 9:17 PM
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  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The don't watch it. Boycott. No one will miss you. It isn't hard to understand that undisputed is important TO HIM. He doesn't care what you think about it, and neither does anyone else. Just don't watch.
     
    catchwtboxing, May 30, 2025 at 9:20 PM
    catchwtboxing, May 30, 2025 at 9:20 PM
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  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You didn't deny it. Just don't overhype the Dubois win like you did Fury. Getting a bit tired of the revisionism
     
    MarkusFlorez99, May 30, 2025 at 9:24 PM
    MarkusFlorez99, May 30, 2025 at 9:24 PM
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  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Deny what? You are living in your own world. Undisputed is important to Usyk, and it still means something to a lot of us.

    If you don't think it is important, then don't watch the fight. You won't be missed.
     
    catchwtboxing, May 30, 2025 at 9:30 PM
    catchwtboxing, May 30, 2025 at 9:30 PM
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  15. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was already undisputed against Fury. Beating somebody he already stopped, and didn't really lose his belt he vacated

    I dont plan on watching it again I've already seen it
     
    MarkusFlorez99, May 30, 2025 at 9:40 PM
    MarkusFlorez99, May 30, 2025 at 9:40 PM
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