Is Ali the No.1 h2h Heavyweight?

who would joe beat

 

Everyone

 

that's funny

 

Prime Holmes would beat Holyfield, a well past it fat Holmes gave Holyfield a competitive fight and schooled Ray Mercer. i don't think Holmes beats Lewis but I'd favor him over Fury. Holmes was levels above Steve Cunningham and he gave Fury hell with his slickness and mobility

 

But those big guys fought Ali sized guys so you can get a good enough gage on how they would do against the real Ali.

Lewis had issues with the right hand pull counter of 214 pound Zeljko Mavrovic. Vitali was beat by 208 pound Birdy. Fury had problems with small Cunningham. . Mike Tyson beat a lot of bigger guys. Size don't mean you have the skill to beat someone like Ali.
If that was the case Wach would have beaten Povetkin

 

which holy do you mean the brawler 80s ver or the semi brawler boxer the best ver if holy 90s which larry wouldnt beat and why would you pick larry over fury he is way to big and good at using his size larry would lose

why do you people like to put fury for losing against people he wouldnt lose to I seen he would lose to George when George wouldnt hit him much

 

Holyfield lost to Michael Moorer lets not get crazy, he's an ATG though.

And this is why i pick Holmes to beat Fury, styles make fights. Fury struggled with Cunningham and was getting outboxed because Cunningham was slippery and light on his feet

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stop the follower quotes cause style of fighting is not the only thing that make fights skills of that style height weight and condition makes a fight not just a style
cause it's been mutiple matches where a style gets beat cause of the other stuff I said it wasnt just a style that the reason the person lost a fight
so why did you say styles like that only matters

what do one match have to do with anything

 

That superior height, weight, power and reach that Fury had over 36 year old Cunningham didn't stop him from getting dropped heavily struggling with Cunninghams slickness and small hitbox. Like i said styles make fights. Size matters but size isn't everything.

 

so styles mean nothing else in boxing matters then sense you keep using that dumb quote so people have only lost matches of a style no match have ever been lost cause of weight height condition or skill cause thats what that dumb quote means to me

and if that's not how all matches have been won or will be won then stop using it cause its bull

 

I never said that, all those factors matter but in this case it is going to be the styles that matter the most like a lot of fights. Fury literally said himself that he struggled with Cunningham because Cunningham was hard to hit and light on his feet. Well, if thats the case the imagine how much he'd struggle against a prime Larry Holmes.

Theres no way around it

 

no that is the way meant it cause you left out the other stuff cause styles is the only thing that matters it's the dumb quote u used shouldnt I take it literally sense you people use it that way

the fact is fury even though you people underrate him is bull he gives people trouble cause of his awkwardness you people put him down cause of his competition but when looking at his skill and style he is a problem now deontay is trash but fury I dont understand why he is underrated

 

Styles makes fights literally means certain styles will give certain fighters issues more than other styles and that can certainly be part of the reason a fight goes the way it does. It don't mean clash of styles is ALL that matters

 

that's not the way its said its said as in style of fight is the only thing that matters cause I seen it lots of times people will say how George would always beat Joe bad even thought the match would be different had joe been in shape so George style wouldnt work the same cause of Joe's skill level would be higher

so no styles make fights is not the quote I use a skill of a style matters though which is valid cause thats how it works how good a person is at that style

we seen ali and people like fury who uses a style of ali which he uses size and awkwardness with it the style is similar I would say fury is more skilled at using it then the 70s ali he doesn't have to take heavy punishment over long periods like ali did

but I have seen ali knockoffs that wasnt skilled at it even though it's the almost the same style of fighting which is why you cant use that dumb quote of styles but you can always use a skill of style

 

Who said thats what it means ?