Is Ali untouchable as far as criticism goes??

He named that whining pooch well, didn't he?

 

well i'm one of ali's biggest fans,but should he be above critisizm? hell no.

 

Ali was of course, an alltime great, but any real criticism is strictly forbidden by the Ali nut-huggers that abound, particularly those that abound at ESPN and the Most High Priest of Ali Nut-Huggers, Thomas Hauser.

 

Ali was fortunate in that he completely missed being around in his last days at the same time that Mike Tyson was at his peak. If he attempted a
comeback win against Tyson in his latter days like Holmes did, he would have been humbled just as Holmes was. It was far better that his last fight was against a Trevor Berbick instead. It isn't fair to judge Holmes on his lack of discretion and wisdom in taking that fight with Tyson, and I don't care if he did actually defeat Ray Mercer a couple of years later, he still had no business coming back against Tyson.

 

I know, I can never call Max an expert, he is sports educated but he is an educated IDIOT and I have heard him time and time again sticking his foot in his mouth...he loves everything that sparkles

 

Gotta love that Brittish commentary on Lewis' fights. You should hear them during the Lewis-Rahman rematch when the KO punch landed. Unfortunatly, Youtube recently deleted a shitload of boxing videos (including my own :twisted for copyright infringement so i don't think it's still on there.

 

I'm pretty sure it's still on there, Chris, I watched it only a fortnight or two ago... for about the tenth time

 

Just rewatched an old favorite of mine "The Five Laws of Muhammad Ali."

Any of you guys seen it??

Henry Cooper hosts it "Those two cuts against Ali were the worst cuts in my career. He was a flicker and a long-puncher, he dragged and clawed at your flesh..."

Anyway, for those who haven't seen it, its a well put together package with a good blend of banter and footage.

It also supports the viewpoint that, as a fighter at least, there is very little meaningful criticism that can be applied to Ali.

 

He can be criticised fairly and justly.The man had many fights where he didn't train, and wasn't up to par.Part of that reason, being, if he kept his thing in his pants, he may not have suffered.

 

Nobody,including fair minded Ali fans such as myself,Bokaj,Johnmaff et al,has any problem,whatsoever,with him being given constructive criticism. What does irritate,however,is him getting repeatedly slated for things that other fighters get let off the hook for. An example being criticism for fighting minor opponents such as Brian London and Jean-Pierre Coopman. Ali's resume is second to none among heavyweights. How often do you see Joe Frazier,for example,taking stick for his defences against Terry Daniels and Ron Stander ?

 

I dont know what your talking about. The anti Ali brigade on here has a relentless, dedicated army of dickslices who create threads sprewing outright lies, quoting them and citing the source with nothing but random google images.

On top of that there are a great amount of hipsters on this forum(like on any nowadays), whom Ali is too mainstream to support.

And then theres Dad's Army, exclusive to the classic forum. A bunch of old wrinklys still aghast at a black man talking out of turn.

 

He gets critcized.
Everyone admits Ali was **** in some of his fights. Like against Blin, Young, Evangelista, L.Spinks .... no one would say he's beyond critcism for those sorts of efforts.
He didn't really bother to train for some fights. Everyone knows that, and it's a criticism.

 

Ali is criticized constantly. Most people hated what he stood for more than anything else. Reading many of the comments here, its far deeper that fair criticism. Me personally, although he was a flawed individual, I love the dude. He's an American icon.

 

hardcore fans are hardcore fans, whether we're talking about Ali, Louis, Leonard or anybody else

:roll:

 

Ali is subject to more criticism than he merits.

There are fair criticisms to be lobbed at him. You just don't hear them often.