Is America Eliminated from the HW scene?

and in a real fight my double leg takedown leaves you unconscious

 

Yes they are in fact that ignorant.

They are currently bragging over one Ukrainian man's ballsack.

 

Ray Mercer didnt put a glove on until age 22, and he became a world champion.:hi:

 

That's what Im talking bout.

The K2 are untouchable for the most part, but there is no other Euro, Russian, Brit, Pole, etc that any random US contender couldn't put a good fight against.
Arreola KO Dimitrenko
Welliver UD Pulev
Mitchell KO (Insert Any Brit)
Byron Polley KO1 Artur Szpilka
Eddie Chambers UD Boystov
DROD KO Potvetkin

:thinkAside from the K2..........the rest of the division is pretty well evenly matched. :deal

 

after i have rendered you unconscious with a precision uppercut, i will put you in the figure 4 leglock for 6 hours solid :blood

 

Learn to read what's written not what you want it to say.

You claimed America's large athletes being tied up in other sports was wrong because 3000 is about the number of athletes in the NFL and NBA. That is wrong, because the number is higher than that at the pro level due to all the developmental and minor leagues.

And I also said that it is wrong because that bracket doesn't represent fully the group of young men that would be making up the world of boxing if they weren't doing other sports, that group is represented at the Collegiate and Upperclass men High School level. Which is a hell of a lot closer to the real number.

So as I said, you want to find out what happened to America's large athletes, go watch a High School football game in Texas, turn on the NCAA Tournament that is going on. Hell Seth Mitchell was a Michigan State Spartan and would have never even touched the gloves if he had been drafted to the NFL.

 

Super. Good for him. Your point? You sure you want to make that argument?

 

Yea, apparently boxing is the national sport in most European countries.

 

Mind telling me what Randall Bailey made? what about Chris Arreola? How about Joe Hanks? Steve Cunningham? or any of the guys who aren't big names who have to work as construction workers to keep the lights on?

Yeah, working as a construction worker praying to hit the jackpot totally beats out getting paid $850K to be a backup safety.

 

So true. We'd have inner city boxing tournaments and there would be 40-50 fans(parents and 1 neighborhood periodical sportswriter), but at our football, baseball or basketball games there would be 1000 people packed into our gym or stadium, and both the Suntimes and the Trib would have writers there, and college and pro scouts would attend the bigger games as well.

I grew up in a Barrio in Chicago, so there were plenty of boxers at the Y or the BoysClub, but when a pickup game of Basketball, Baseball, or Football came up, the gyms were empty.:rofl

 

No other sports exist in Europe. Just boxing. There's no such thing as popular, well paying and relatively safe ball sports like there is in the US and the US alone. Every European dreams of becoming the next Henry Maske.

 

:good

 

How many countries in the world have population densities? All of them I would imagine.

How many have athletic programs geared to farming and training potential NFL stars? **** all, because no one outside of America gives a **** about the sport. I've already mentioned that.

Dunno what the rest of the stuff you wrote has to do with my quote.

 

America is going downhill in the heavyweight division for a few reasons.

the sport is now more international, up until the 90s most heavyweight boxers were american. they also had better access to the right facilities, trainers than everyone else, but now everyone has caught up.

the sport is less popular in america than it was, most of the best athletes are going into nfl, nba, mma whatever. so that means smaller talent pool for boxing. on the other hand the sport has always been more popular in america than anywhere else, so it evens itself out. the best big athletes in europe mostly never went into boxing anyway.
America's amateur system has gone to ****, they have only one decent contender for a medal in 2012 olympics out of like 12 divisions, kind of embarrassing especially when you look back only to the 80s where they dominated.
americans are fatter and lazier than they have ever been, as living standards go up less people are going to want to go box or be hungry enough to train hard for a fight. no surprise that most champions are from poor communities, there are going to be less of these as time goes by. then again same thing for most of europe, but you see many boxers from britain are gypsies where life is a lot harder, many boxers in germany are actually from poorer countries in eastern europe.

 

That's bull**** ...
number of teams in NFL is constant since 50 years and half of
the players are either skinny quarterbacks/catchers or fat defenders.
You can't find more than 100 NFL players who could have a success in boxing.
And the same number of players capable of boxing was when
US dominated the WH division 20-50 years back.