in my opinion yes and no,slightly ambiguous i know but people need to realise boxing has been centralized for 100 years on the american continent for many reasons,capitalism being one! the heavyweight division is a great example of this whole argument,undoubtedly lacking in personalities and "era for era" it can be argued is not the best,but lets not kid ourselves that america simply stopped producing them or that the current crop of US heavyweights are all simply a genetic misshap and a massive blip on the legacy of its fighters, a legacy that will one day revert back to the ali/frazier era,its just simply not plausable! i dont buy all this "rubbish amateur programme" nonsense apart from the fact that a great majority of fighters came up the old skool way and forged a path out of grimey downtown gyms,the sport is as popular and rich as it has ever been,go figure! the answer is globalisation,the sport has always gone hand in hand with politics and just as the world became more accessable so did america and the sport,to simply say that the current crop are bums while producing no fighters to back that up is hypocrisy at its finest,not to mention a disservice to every single fighter ,its not about harping back to the days of old and simply labelling fighters bums and overrated for nationalistic and dare i say it racist reasons(in a small no. of cases)its about acceptance and acknowledgement that the sport is moving on,so should we. america declining or the world embracing the sport? ummhhhhhhhh thanks for reading,i go on a bit i know.
Yes, boxing is unquestionably on the decline in the US, because American athletes - as well as the public - aren't interested in boxing. This is a very good thing for the rest of the world. This is their chance to capitalize on the lack of competition by default.
disagree on both points,boxing is still massively popular and you do a disservice to fighters worldwide to generalize it in those terms not to mention the fact that your basically saying all aspiring fighters are mere opportunists(if by default).
UK im far from a weasel my friend,and would appreciate a little maturity and originality on this thread rather than the usual nation/fighter bashing,so your argument with me and reason for asking my location is? i may aswell type your response for you ......
Maturity? Don't ask me 'why' before you answer my question. That's goddamn maturity. Now, obviously you're from outside the US talking like this. You have NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. Just what exactly qualifies you to state that boxing is "massively popular" in the United States? WHAT? I'm giving it to you straight, just the way it us. Our top athletes wouldn't ever dream of getting involved in boxing. They have forgotten it even exists. It's purely a FACT.
It depends who you talk to. According to most MMA fans, it is on the decline. But they never understood or liked boxing in the first place. If you look at the numbers, PPV wise, its as healthy as ever. But the absences of a dominant American Heavyweight, or dominant American fighters at any class for that matter, only adds to the negative perception.
point 1- questioning a response is an example of an enquiring mind,maturity has nothing to do with it! point 2-i assume boxing is still pretty popular hence forums like these, massive PPV sales etc etc point 3-your athletes are now not only amnesiacs when it comes to the pugilistic sport,they shiver at the mere thought of a squared circle in your opinion!lol. im speaking in generalistic terms.you i asume have done a survey and have it on good authority that boxing is now dead and athletes are opposed at the very idea?
mayweather,pavlik etc i just dont buy the "its declining argument" you could argue its as big as ever.
Mayweather's retired and was hardly dominant seeing as he did more talking than fighting the top 147lbers. Pavlik is America's great white hope but has yet to really establish himself as dominant (yet). The jury is still out. Hopkins, DLH, Mosely, Tarver, RJJ are all in the twilight of their careers and on the verge of retirement. I'm not saying that the popularity of boxing is actually in decline in the US, but the American superstars in the sport are becoming scarce, meaning someone that doesn't just win, but dominates.
im an american theres no question in my mind boxing is on the decline in this country there does that make u guys feel better?