Is Amir Kahn getting unfair stick for his "slow" progress?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by JonOli, Aug 26, 2008.

  1. TFFP

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    It is.

    He's still not quite where he should be though. When you look at a guys record, you get an idea of the kind of credibility he has. So when we look at who he's been knocking out, its hard to gain an accurate idea of how hard he does actually punch because most are domestic novices.

    For example, if he'd have actually fought Thaxton there is credibility because we know the guys Thaxton has knocked out.
     
  2. elle

    elle Journeywoman Full Member

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    No problem. :good

    Its interesting though as I don't really judge a fighters progress just on how quickly they win a World Title.

    With Khan for instance I'd genuinely be impressed if he stepped up and won the British and European Titles.
     
  3. TFFP

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    I would love to see Khan-Romanov, I really would.
     
  4. Claypole

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    FW wouldn't.
     
  5. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    You can't include the WBU as a world title challenge.

    Another thing, Khan is yet to challenge for the British title. Let's look at when the fighters in your list fought for the British title:

    David Haye - in his 8th fight
    Joe Calzaghe - in his 14th fight
    Ricky Hatton - in his 22nd fight
    Danny Williams - in his 16th fight
    Audley Harrison - no British title challenge yet
    Frank Bruno - no British title challenge
     
  6. girv

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    The stick he gets would normaly be unfair for a 21 year old but he brings it all on himself with what he says.

    I think Warren has been matching him okay - if he was to match him with a hard puncher he could have had a brutal beating by now.

    If Khan was to say something like "I just want to keep gradually stepping up a level and eventually fight for a world title" then people would not be on his back so much.

    Instead he has made some ridiculous comments about his level and when he will be world champion and has been largely responsible for the high level of expectation because of this.
     
  7. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The British title doesn't hold the weight it used to.

    If you chuck out the WBU then the WBO can go as well because it is only very recently that it has gained any sort of credence whatsoever - some bodies refuse to recognise it even now (if you remove those that makes the time taken by Hatton, and Calzaghe - to pick up a genuine title - look even worse).

    Some boxers take the British, or Euro route others don't (eg Bruno) - but they all have a final goal of a world title. Khan may well decide to skip the British scene altogher, like the afore mentioned Bruno.

    If Khan picks up a "World title" within his next 5 fights, he will be a lot younger, and done it in a quicker time then all those on the list bar Haye who did it two fights quicker; but at 26.

    *Yes we all know the values of alphabet world titles before anyone starts, but the situations been pretty much the same for all of them listed with perhaps the exception of Bruno*

    Thats 5 fights...
     
  8. brown bomber

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    :patsch You usually post better then that.
     
  9. hitman_hatton1

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    one things for sure.

    khan's career is definitely at that stage when he should be boxing the best of british or a good european level contender.

    not an unheard of guy like prescott. :huh

    and as for ppv. :patsch
     
  10. Broxi

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    Well, the stick he gets is a mix of factors and not least is the Frank Warren factor because the stick Khan recieves comes from the boxing fans, not the general sports fans who only see him KO'ing the guys put in front of him so far.

    He's also held to higher standards due to the hype surrounding him, the fact he is PPV on Sky Box Office and he hasn't done anything yet. There's also the arrogance that seems to be the mark of the guy now, when he first turned pro after the Olympics, he seemed like a humble, polite and likable kid.

    The money and star value has gone straight to his head and he's been calling out greats and claiming to be world level, if he wants to claim these things then he has to be held to their standards.

    Maybe this is a good reason our boxers have to struggle for credability on the world stage, let's have a look at some non-British champions as comparisons, since Khan likes to compare himself to greats:

    Oscar De La Hoya
    WBO SFW - 11 Fights - 21 Yr Old

    Floyd Mayweather Jr
    WBC SFW - 17 Fights - 21 Yr Old

    Manny Pacquiao
    WBC FW - 24 Fights - 20 Yrs Old

    Felix Trinidad
    IBF WW - 19 Fights - 20 Yr Old
     
  11. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he shuts his mouth, and fight bums
    no one would give a ****

    but he talks about becoming world champ then fights an unknown columbian called presscot, wtf is tht.

    he shud just box and make money, progress, be patient, wait for a good moment, win a title, then talk trash. His trash talking might be complemented then. wish him the best, but he needs to fix his attitude.
     
  12. GazOC

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    Why not throw in Wilfred Benitez as well while you're cherry picking?:roll:;)
     
  13. Broxi

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    Mike Tyson
    WBC HW - 27 Fights - 20 Yrs Old

    :lol::lol:
     
  14. GazOC

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    Still cherry picking.....what about Leonard? Breland? Whittaker? Spinks? All ex Olympians and older than Khan when they fought for the title.
     
  15. Ghostface923

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    Everybody needs someone to hate. It was not too long ago everybody was hating Hatton and saying he should fight witter, now theyve moved onto Khan. Its same as how the England team get so much stick instead of encouragement and people like Lampard youst to get hated for no reason.