Is Amir Kahn getting unfair stick for his "slow" progress?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by JonOli, Aug 26, 2008.


  1. TFFP

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    Does it matter why they want to see him face one?

    The facts of the matter are you can't develop against featherfists he's been feeding on, because you get away with poor mistakes that would otherwise be costly. The whole point of fighting a relative puncher, and we aren't talking a Julian jackson of the lightweight division here, is that it is an excercise in concentration and defence instead of having **** coming back at you.

    Prescott is a moderate step forward, at least he has a punchers record, but unfortunately one with a distinct lack of credibility.
     
  2. GazOC

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    As long as they (you) are honest about the reason then I suppose not, theres a lot BS going on in that regard though. Hes been tagged and hurt of couple of times already facing non-punchers, if he doesn't use that as a lesson to concentrate then I don't see how getting KO'd will drill it into him much clearer.

    You could even say the match making to date has done a good job by exposing him to these problems/ issues without getting him knocked out. Its up to him and his team to learn from them.
     
  3. KCD

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    I think the stick is well deserved.

    He has been floored off the only two live challengers he has fought, yet neither where near world level and neither are punchers.

    He has a lofty ranking in all the rankings plus the Ring magazine yet he has fought nobody of note or merit.

    Yet we are fed Warrens propoganda that he has beaten world level fighters.
     
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    hes bringing it on himself by fighting bums on PPV
     
  5. GazOC

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    If he's been floored by non-punching domestic class fighters, doesn't that show you that the 'slow progress' is probably advisable?

    Khan and Warren both exagerate the fighters achievements and he's nowhere near where they claim he is on the world or Euro scene but I think they are wise to take their time with Kahn esp. considering his age.
     
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    Yes he does need slow progress,BUT and this is a big BUT he thinks he is the King Dong already. Also because of the hype he is being ridiculously ranked already and he is going to be rushed into a title fight and get his arse kicked.

    Im from Bolton and i swear to you he could take a **** in the street and still be seen as some kind of saviour to mankind.

    Anyways i think Khan v Murray would be a cracking fight at the moment and i think Murray should start the favourite. For every person who says Khan has all these positives, they overlook his glaring faults.
     
  7. GazOC

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    Ah, but the question in the poll is about the slow progress.....;)
     
  8. TFFP

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    But a lot of this is down to concentration issues. His defence isn't great, but some of the sloppy work he does smacks of overconfidence and lack of respect for his opponent. And why should he, when he's facing what on paper is an old super feather, or a featherfisted type? It will soon be different when he walks out in that first round and feels a puncher on his gloves and arms and he has to be on the top of his game.

    They need to take a calculated risk and put him in with a known opponent that can punch. It might be a risk, but if they don't there will be no risk/reward when it comes to his world title shot that he reckons he's close to, he'll 100% be knocked out.
     
  9. KCD

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    Well then yes it is unfair he is getting stick for his slow progress.... but i still dont like the boy:good
     
  10. GazOC

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    You want him get punched on the arm by big puncher and that'll solve his concentration problem? He's never going to have a great chin , he needs to work on his defence (and yes, concentration) but not against people who can lay him out with one punch. They need to be sure his defence is as good as it possibly can be before they take that sort of risk, as I've said whats the rush?
     
  11. TFFP

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    You think about it way too simplistically. When he is hit on the arm in that first round from a guys jab and he respects his power, he will raise his game, he'll be worried and consequently the reaction times will be quicker

    He will have to concentrate, otherwise he'll know he'll be knocked out, rather than facing a featherfist and not respecting his power until he's clocked by a clean shot

    It won't change by fighting pillow dusters and old men every time. You can tell by the way he talks pre-fight, he ain't worried a damn bit about these guys and he gets sloppy as a result

    It doesn't need to be a huge puncher. Sadly Khan hasn't faced a puncher of ANY stature.
     
  12. GazOC

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    So all the bad habits he's picked up over the last 4 years will vanish as soon as he gets hit on the arm and starts concentrating? Who's thinking simplistically now....
     
  13. TFFP

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    They won't improve whilst he's not under threat. That I promise you. He might fight a guy that is not stylistic threat such as a St Clair that gives the false impression he's improved, but it wasn't the case as we've seen. I suspect this Prescott is cherrypicked perfectly.

    There always comes a time where its sink or swim with dodgy chinned fighters, and the time is up for Amir. He's fought enough garbage. Fight a Murray, a Romanov, hell even a Thaxton :roll:
     
  14. GazOC

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    Theres absolutely no need for him to 'sink or swim' at the moment, he's 21 FFS. I'd have damn sight more time for your opinions on this if you just admitted you want to see him KO'd, at least we'd have a honest start to the discussion.
     
  15. TFFP

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    I don't really care if he gets KO'd I'm not particuarly a hater or lover of Khan, I just absolutely know that not fighting a guy with some power after 18 fights does more harm than good in the long run. It's similar to matching a guy against fighters of one style, and expecting him to come up trumps against a different one later. Another thing Khan has been guilty of up until Gomez.

    You might be protecting the applecart, but at the same time your chances on the world level are evaporating slowly as the flaws become more ingrained.

    He will get KO'd regardless so I won't have to wait long ;)