Is Amir Khan good for the future of boxing in Britain?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Decebal, Jun 20, 2007.


  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Stupid question? Obviously YES, partly...because Khan has made boxing more popular with young people in this country than anyone else recently...but with the talent and the "nice lad" persona comes the hype and the gravy train that Amir himself helps himself from without much reserve...so has he become more about the celebrity than about the boxing? (It happens a lot in Britain these days, in all fields...) Does that not diminish from the status of the sport? And would kids thinking of puting on the gloves still want to do it if what could end up beind a bit of a hype train ends up unfortunately being derailed or if Khan continues making a career fighting guys he is almost sure to beat?? Would that not turn boxing into a bit of a circus act and take away from it? What do you think?
     
  2. IronBull

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  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    It's been a circus act for a while and has taken away from it accordingly.

    TV show planned, autobiography already out, probably a goddamn film in the works for all we know, and he has yet to accomplish a damn thing in professional boxing. That's the definition of a nutter-exploitative boxing circus and it's going end really soon, they are milking the cow for all it's worth.

    The young fans come into boxing because of Khan for all the wrong reasons and when he's laid out and drooling on the canvas, they will leave the sport behind for all the wrong reasons.:patsch

    Because of that, I hope that he's not just drooling, but I hope that his jaw gets broken for a little extra effect, little exploitative joke.
     
  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Just the fact that an unproven, 20 year old hype job has that kind of capital to dispose of is absolutely sickening.
     
  5. IronBull

    IronBull Active Member Full Member

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    What??? Why are you so selfish mate. The gym is massive, it has 2 floors. Amir is a millionaire if you didnt know that.

    [FONT=&quot][/FONT]You should at least give credit to Amir for building a new gym for a community.. Good for british boxing..
     
  6. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boxing the sport, the art will never be popular in Britain. The lack for respect for Joe Calzaghe proves that.


    Boxing personalities can have good spells. Eubanks, Benn, Khan and Ricky "just one of the lads" Hatton show that.
     
  7. NOrth

    NOrth Active Member Full Member

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    Any athlete who has a glimour of hope of becoming european champion, let alone one that has potential to be a top ten p4p fighter. Jury is still out on how good he can be, but there aint many who have his raw talent, just a case of keeping him motivated and moulding it. Of course we can only determine an undefeated youngsters potential as he movves up through the ranks to face sterner tests. Willie Limmond is a good domenstic fighter, and a fine opponent for Khan at this stage.

    So, yes, good for boxing. I dont think any of the arguments for bad hold water. Even people who dont like him (amsterdam for example) are talkign about him, and subsequently the sport, which in turn puts focus on guys like limmond.
     
  8. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Selfish?

    Yes, I know Amir is a millionare, that's what I was saying was sickening, not the fact that a gym was built. It's sickening that an unproven, unworthy hype job has that kind of capital.
     
  9. victorhugo4222

    victorhugo4222 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your totally right there mate. my friend is only 23, a pro boxer, 20 pro fights, has fought for the british title 3 times won once and defended it once, fought for the wbu twice and not only would he be lucky to have made £50,000 from boxing when he defended his britiish the other week there he didnt even get a mention in the newspapers up here.

    So how can you justify Khan already being a millionaire and everything he does splashed all over the newspapers? im not saying its Khans fault its the media and everyone around him but hasnt anyone thought about how all the other boxers must feel about this? thwey bust there guts and dedicate there whole lives to boxing and dont make a 100th in there entire career than what hes made already. It makes me F****G sick.
     
  10. NOrth

    NOrth Active Member Full Member

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    Supply and demand. He wins Olympic silver at 17, so promoters clamour for his signature. Promter knows he can promote this guy and make a mint, and in turn Khans handlers knew this too. Boxings a business.
     
  11. stake501

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    Totally correct...but this not Khans fault...it is the media. If you aer a professional you have to make as much money as possible for your short and dangerous career.

    the thing is it happens within boxing all the time....a fringe level heavyweight will make loads more than a title winner at a lighter weight. Wheres the justice....there is none, its about popularity with the fans, harcore and casual. As Khan caught the public imagination as a kid, similar to de la hoya, he can rinse for ages.

    Naz did the same and exploited it as he caught the imagination by being extremely arrogant and winning. He probably made three times as much as Bareera had. Was it fair ...no ....but its business
     
  12. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I know it, it's awful standards and it relates to the entire societal model, but that's more for the Lounge. The point is that awful exploitation like this is nothing but INSULTING to hardcore boxing fans and especially to hard working fighters whom are sometimes excellent, but get no chance. Travis Simms is a guy who was avoided and thrown away for a long time, because he's not overly marketable, but he's skilled to no end and puts on a fight, guys like this and your friend that you mention deserve better treatment. Simms is even a legitimate champ at LMW and a danger to every fighter there, yet he's made 1/5th of what baby Khan has made.


    You can, but you have to support unrestrained, exploitative elitist Capitalism to really justify it. If you are a person of good heart, there is no way you can justify it in a supportive manner.

    It makes me sick too. IronBull thinks I am an *******, when my intentions for professional fighters are only honourable, I even advocate a special pension for guys who make their career out of boxing, all of the lower level guys who fight long careers and are needed, but in the end are broke, that's repulsive. This is something most boxing fans would advocate, they would also advocate a good regulation on these damn sanctioning bodies, if they do advocate this, then they have no business being a hypocrite and advocating this Khan mess.
     
  13. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    But is this the way you want it to be? If you'd prefer it to be both a business, but have quality also in the front running, then don't support this little **** and his hype machine, it only digs this hole worse.
     
  14. victorhugo4222

    victorhugo4222 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Obviously on a completely different scale alex arthur was pretty similiar to khan, not in the hype but the arrogance, and i couldnt stand him even though im scottish but losing to gomez was the best thing to happen to him now look at him not only do i like arthur now i actually go see his fights when i can. I hope the same thing happens with khan cause as much as i cant stand him just now he does have potential and could be good for british boxing.
     
  15. NOrth

    NOrth Active Member Full Member

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    It is supply and demand in that Warren wasnt the only promoter chasing his signature, but he was offering the largest sum of cash.

    There is only one product in this instance (khan), therefor the demand is higher (from the promoters) so the product is worth more money. If there was only one promoter vying for his signature he wouldnt be getting anywhere near the money he is now.

    Should we be arsed about what he's earning anyway? I think we should just enjoy the ride whilst it lasts.