Is an Olympic pedigree overrated in boxing?

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  1. destruction

    destruction Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There is definitely a trend of amateur boxers who fight as an amateur into their mid to late 20s then turning pro not making great pros.

    I think they develop too much of the mindset to be successful under amateur rules that hinders them in a professional ring.

    If I see a great amateur who turns pro in the mid 20s the alarm bells are going off. That they have waited too long and wont be as good as a pro. It gives them a short window to be successful as a pro too, because a mans athletic peak is on the decline at age 30 and over by aged 35.

    In many countries the money to go to the Olympics as an amateur boxer has been so good that they are happy to just be an amateur. Turning pro is an after thought in some cases too.
     
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  2. Felix Sanchez

    Felix Sanchez Active Member Full Member

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    Some stats since the 1950s. Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year - those who appeared in the Olympics.

    1950s

    1956 - Floyd Patterson (Gold)
    1958 - Ingermar Johannsson (Silver)
    1959 - Ingermar Johannsson (Silver)

    1960s

    1960 - Floyd Patterson (Gold)
    1963 - Muhammad Ali (Gold)
    1966 - Muhammad Ali (Gold)
    1967 - Joe Frazier (Gold)
    1968 - Nino Benvenuti (Gold)

    1970s

    1970 - Joe Frazier (Gold)
    1971 - Joe Frazier (Gold)
    1972 - Muhammad Ali (Gold)
    1973 - George Foreman (Gold)
    1974 - Muhammad Ali (Gold)
    1975 - Muhammad Ali (Gold)
    1976 - George Foreman (Gold)
    1978 - Muhammad Ali (Gold
    1979 - Ray Leonard (Gold)

    1980s

    1981- Ray Leonard (Gold)
    1987 - Evander Holyfield (Bronze)
    1989 - Pernell Whitaker (Gold)

    1990s

    1992 - Riddick Bowe (Silver)
    1993 - Michael Carbajal (Silver)
    1994 - Roy Jones (Silver)
    1995 - Oscar De Lay Hoya (Gold)
    1996 - Evander Holyfield (Gold)
    1997 - Evander Holyfield (Gold)
    1998 - Floyd Mayweather (Gold)

    2000s


    2002 - Vernon Forrest (1st Rd)
    2007 - Floyd Mayweather (Bronze)

    2010s

    2011 - Andre Ward (Gold)
    2017 - Vasyl Lomachenko (Gold)
    2018 - Oleksandr Usyk (Gold)

     
  3. Robertus Ramsey

    Robertus Ramsey New Member Full Member

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    There is no comparison between been a Pro and Amatuer, East Europeans cannot fight going backwards or sideways as shown by GGG, Klits and Lomachenko.
     
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  4. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Guido Full Member

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    All of the sudden with the rise of GGG everyone started touting these ridiculous amateur records. It's always been complete nonsense.
     
  5. Eel87

    Eel87 Active Member Full Member

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    You mean the records are faked for promotion?
     
  6. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Guido Full Member

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    In a sense possibly. Or just stretching them out as much as possible by including anything and everything
     
  7. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Bronsonville Full Member

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    Now compare the ages of their pro debuts.
     
  8. Dannymita

    Dannymita Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I forgot golovkin kovalev and lomachenko are utter ****........
     
  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    The trainers think amateur finishing is a plus. The problem is if you stay there too long, like Lomo and GGG did. It can take a bit away from your prime with 250-400 fights!
     
  10. Felix Sanchez

    Felix Sanchez Active Member Full Member

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    Sorry, compare them to what?
     
  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I think Lomachenko might actually have an issue because he won endless am fights. He fights like he assumes things will go his way, and struggles to make uncomfortable adjustments when it's starting him in the face. It's happened twice already.
     
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