Is Andre Michael Ward An ATG...???

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Is Andre Ward An ATG???

  1. Yes

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  1. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    I consider GGG an ATG middleweight.

    Ward is an ATG 168 fighter.....do you honestly feel that Kessler/Froch and Kovalev equate to an ATG?
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Do you consider calzaghe a atg? What about Zoo? Yes froch is an atg Kessler no.
     
  3. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Froch isn't an ATG at all....in FACT how can you claim Froch to be one and Kessler not.

    ATG IS subjective but I rate Calzaghe above Ward, underated resume, just as good top wins and he had longevity.

    I rate Tszyu as an ATG 140....NO doubt you don't but I bet you rate Aaron Pryor.
     
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  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I thought froch beat Kessler in both fights and only lost to ward so that's why I think he's an atg. I love calazaghe and thibk hes an atg but his resume isnt better than froch or ward. Pryor is an atg at 140 but most see him as a top 100 atg.
     
  5. Odins beard

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    If Pryor is in a top 100 ATG I think Tszyu should be too in that case.

    Again it's subjective but as I've said before in other threads for me if Ward hadn't retired and faced a Gvozdyk, a Beterbiev or a Bivol....hell even Stevenson and won he'd be a certified lock.

    I just don't see how him having 5 fights at 175 and his super 6 reign qualifies him to be spoken along side even your modern ATG's like Pac, Floyd, Mosley, ODLH etc.

    Having said that a top 100 fighters list of all time he probablywould and should make so I could be wrong.
     
  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    I really dont think hes retired. You guys need to wait before you pass judgement either way.
     
  7. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    P4P #1 isn't anything official Pimp. It's just some made up status that fans argue about. It literally means nothing, since there nothing official about the P4P category.

    Why don't you ask the 3G or calzaghe fans who say that why they think it. Kosyta Tszyu is a HOFer, not an ATG.

    Ward is definitely a HOFer. But not an ATG. There's a difference dude.
     
  8. Perkin Warbeck

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    Definitely NOT an ATG.

    Also, he demanded home advantage for all his Super Six fights, and used deliberate head butts to defeat Mikkel Kessler.

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  9. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    He wanted a third but ward retired
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I did ask them and only one responded. You're a GGG fan I don't know if you're a Calzaghe fan or not. What's your opinion? ATG or not?
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    When will people like you learn that the whole purpose of the Super 6 was to showcase the co-favorites who were Kessler and Abraham to the American public in hopes that they would become stars here.:deal: Both Abraham and Kessler wanted to fight here in America in the Super 6.
     
  12. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course 3G's not an ATG. If you are asking that question to someone, then you're probably being trolled dude.

    But to be honest, I don't even know what people consider an ATG anymore. It's become too vague and opinion based, just like P4P criteria.

    If it's about some top 100 list, that doesn't fly either.
     
  13. DoubleJ

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    RJJ is the best fighter to have fought at 168 when he fought there. Sugar Ray Leonard was a shell of himself.

    Andre is the best fighter to have a sustained career at 168 IMO.
     
  14. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Best win was Canelo.
     
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  15. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let it sink in
    The best win was Clenelo & so will the next , only this time GGG will more emphatically Brutally, Brutalise Clenelo ...while Sicko untensil boy watchs the money evaporate!