Is Andre Michael Ward An ATG...???

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Is Andre Michael Ward An ATG...???

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  1. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    ATG at 168 behind Calzaghe, Jones and Toney imo and in no particular order of the top 2.

    At LH it’s a definite no.
     
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  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    Eubank thinks Ward didnt myth either.
     
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  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Kov's best win was probably Ward.

    Regardless of how the judges saw that bout
     
  4. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Yep, 116-111 for Kovalev imo.
     
  5. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Wow. That might just be the lamest attempt at an insult I've come across.
     
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  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    he certainly has the marks of getting there, looking back I dont know how he acheived what he did when compared to his chasing rivals.

    -beating kessler whislt green in his first title fight. Kessler was the benchmark for SMW elite, wards rival joe calzaghe took his whole career to acheive this and froch 2 fights (although very arguably the first was a draw in Denmark).

    - casually handling the next best SMW elite, froch, not to mention the other world class ones.

    - winning the elite SMW S6 tournie. Only froch comes close with 2nd place, whilst his other rivals kessler and calzaghe fought perhaps 1 elite between them.

    - equal number of more recognised defences than his closest SMW rival froch, with kessler just behind with recognised defences and joe calzghe chasing with 4 (kess, bika, manfred, lacy). (ignoring Sven cheating ottke of course)

    - at LHW, smashing the prime elite top dog of LHW Kovie for the unified crown. In comparison the best Kessler could manage was a fake silver LHW title from Allan Green (though smashing him good), and Joe even less with a mere magazine title (and even nearly getting beat toit by a 43 yr man).
     
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  7. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    A great for his generation, probably top 3 SMW last 30 years. ATG? No, sir. Unless I compile a top 20 SMW. Can't see him top 100 ATG.

    And I picked him to win the Super Six tourny as a darkhorse. Before it began!
     
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  8. Jack Catterall

    Jack Catterall New Member Full Member

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    Yeah Ward is an ATG as he was the man at 168 and beat the man at 175
     
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  9. Dance84

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    Daddy ward. I miss you. ......
     
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  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    To crouch over is a foul ????? Heck If Kov was stood up straight Ward's barrage would have peppered his knees LOL You just dont have a clue
     
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  11. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Imo no not enough depth or longevity. Ward is a quality fighter but outside of super 6 and Kovalev fights he resume is super thin... if he would have had a mini regin at 175 I could see an argument but 2 controversial fights and a few unranked bums, doesn't really cut it.
     
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  12. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  13. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    No, he was a very good fighter but not an ATG.
     
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  14. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Interesting, Can you give us your top 10 ATG list @168
     
  15. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    He's far from being an ATG, but he's definitely one of the dirtiest fighters of all time.
     
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