Is Andre Ward in your top 10 P4P list?

for sure

 

Anyone who has Ward in their P4P is ****ing nuts, he's done absolutely nothing to be ranked so highly. Anyone who does, please explain why you have him ranked that high up.

 

I wouldn't call beating Kessler like that "absolutely nothing"

 

If you didnt have him there after beating kessler then you shouldnt have him there after beating Bika and Allen Green.

 

The Kessler win is very good, but that is only one win. If you go by the laws of 1 win gets you in, then why isn't Pacal p4p top 10 after beating Dawson? That was an excellent win was it not?

The point is, Ward has one good win and the rest are very mediocre. He is absolutely nowhere near the top 10, if he wins the S6 and beats Bute, then he is in for sure, but as of now he's not even close.

 

time will tell if i'm right or wrong.

As for Pascal, I think he's edging in on top10. But tbh he's had some stamina issues that make me hesitant. But I wouldn't argue anyone putting him in there.

 

Typical hype.
Ward may well go on to be a P4P fighter and become a ATG, but lets keep it in perspective.
In the S6 Ward wont have fought one undefeated fighter and all his S6 fights have been at home so far.
Wards best win so far was over an already beaten, double vision suffering fighter, who hadnt been the same since he was beaten first time, in a fight which ended early due to illegal headbutts. Wards other big wins were over gatekeepers Miranda and Bika who tend to lose when stepped up.
This is another example of how people get carried away by hype. It was the same with Dawson when he beat a couple of B level fighters 14-15 years older than him

 

He's been in mine since beating mikkel kessler. he is only just in there at 9/10th.

 

I have him around 14-16 atm... Kessler was not in my top 10 when Ward beat him...

 

If he beats Abraham and then Froch/Johnson then I think he will be.

 

Kessler had double vision after Ward not before, and that double vision fighter beat Froch who you all have in your top10s Ward is borderline top10 based on him beating the no1 at his weight and dominating some bordline top10 types at his weight.

 

No,headbutting Mikkel and beating Green do not make him appeal to me.He is a decent fighter I can see that but as yet he is pretty unproven.