Is Andre Ward in your top 10 P4P list?

Kessler looked pretty sharp against Froch, don't you think?

His hometown advantage might become an issue in the future but it isn't one yet or can you name one gift decision Ward received in his last fights in Oakland?

 

Damn early to put there yet, imo! If Ward wasn`t american this question would not even be up for debate!

 

If he'd won clean against Kessler, he'd be scrapping the top 30.

 

Kessler was suffering before the S6. Still Kessler was an already beaten fighter who hadnt looked the same since his first defeat.
Dont tell me whos in my top 10.
Remember Ward could only win at home and used illegal holding and hitting and headbutts.
Froch fought away in Kesslers back garden in a fight where he was heavily disrupted due to his flight being cancelled 3 times due to the dust cloud over Europe and only got to the country a couple of days before the fight, to then have to do media work.
It was a close fight that looks bad on Froch losing, but he was fighting away unlike Ward, who would have probably backed out with those disruptions and had the fight moved to Joakland

 

I'm pretty sure you didnt mind illegal holding and hitting when you were nutthugging Hatton a couple of years, hypocracy EXPOSED Ward was easily winning that fight way before any headbutts/clash of heads

In the interview I saw Kessler was saying the vision problems started after Ward, he looked at his best 3 fights. But you'll ignore that because it doesn't fit your agenda.

All you need to know

Ward>Kessler>Froch

 

P4P is utter **** nonsense but he must be there or if not after couple of wins he is.

 

This :deal

 

Abraham will put ward on ***** street

 

Mosley>Mayorga>Forrest>Mosley :huh > Margarito > Cotto> Mosley :huh> Margarito > Cotto > Quintana > Paul Williams > Winky Wright > Mosley :huh > Mayorga > Forrest > Mora = Mosley :huh

Calzaghe>Roy Jones Jr>John Ruiz>Evander Holyfield>Mike Tyson>Larry Holmes>Muhammad Ali>....



Flawed logic

 

He beat Kessler who was number 1, but that does not qualify him for a top 10 place at all. He dominated Green who certainly was not a top 10 super middleweight, and he didn't exactly dominate Bika, who was. He is far from a top 10 place as far as I'm concerned.

 

Except Froch hasn't beat anyone as good as Kessler yet. If Froch comes back and beats Ward then we have that. Froch hasn't beat anyone who's proven to be in that class yet

 

Yep, Shane is better than Mosley. :rofl

 

Nah that one was incomplete

this is the new one

Mosley>Mayorga>Forrest>Mosley :huh > Margarito > Cotto> Mosley :huh> Margarito > Cotto > Quintana > Paul Williams > Winky Wright > Mosley :huh > Mayorga > Forrest > Mora = Mosley :huh