Is Andre Ward outpointing Arthur Abraham just a foregone conclusion at this stage?

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  1. rjko23

    rjko23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i think a straddle is in order here. with ward decision the most likly outcome but put a bit on abraham to ko ward. he still hits hard and i cant see ward clinching with arthur. if he does he'll get out muscled on the inside. abraham is a beast if he comes to fight!
     
  2. JoeLaTurkey

    JoeLaTurkey Active Member Full Member

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    A lot of people outpointing Abraham is a foregone conclusion at this stage.
     
  3. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    People who rated AA highly prior to the start of the S-6 never bothered to analyze his opposition. Marco Rubio and David Lopez would be big steps up compared to most of Abraham's title defenses.
     
  4. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Not that much. Ward has not enough power to **** anybody at the top. He'll win easily though.
     
  5. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Ward is a very big favorite here and should win with a dominating performance. I think that speaks a lot of Ward though because Abraham, despite his last two performances, is still a good fighter. He does have that chance of landing something big and changing the fight. I don't think he does it and I really hope Ward looks to make a statement in this fight. If Ward decides to turn up the heat there is a chance he could stop Abraham. Ultimately, I think he'll play it safe more than risky and win a wide decision where Abraham doesn't win more than 2-3 rounds at best.
     
  6. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    You almost sound like a jilted lover, IB.

    So fickle and such vitriol.

    You were somewhat sweet on AA at one time.

    Or do I have you mixed up with someone else.


    I would expect nothing different from the hapless Boo, who's been on the hate wagon for AA ever since his idol was ducking the dude. Notice how he denigrated the p4p #3, even AFTER his self-ownage-of-the-century thread about stretchers.

    But you usually take a more balanced view of things.



    At any rate, AA has had a couple of poor outings recently, but I'm not convinced that it's over for him just yet.

    He hasn't been quite the same at 168 as at middle. I think that's maybe where he belongs, if he can make the weight.

    As for the upcoming, the betting would have to be on Ward, with or without his billy-goat tactics.

    Froch fought the perfect fight against Abraham. I believe AA felt that sooner or later, Froch would exchange, go for the KO. But it never happened.

    Ward just needs to do the same and cruise to the finals.

    But he might get greedy and go for the big display.

    And that would seem to be Arthur's best chance.
     
  7. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some questions remain to be answered from both these guys.

    If for some reason Andre Ward elects to fight the way he did against Green & Bika, then it's gonna be a close fight.

    If he truly boxes from the outside, it should be another wide UD.

    In regards to Abraham, I think he just came out flat against Froch and it tore his confidence apart. If somehow he can get it back and open up a little more, he could very well surprize Ward and boxing fans, even with a close loss. Andre doesn't have too much power, isn't as busy as Froch and certainly doesn't have his freakish reach, so even if Ward's more athletic and smarter in the ring, I think Abraham can more easily impose his own style on Ward than on Froch.

    It all depends what kind of Abraham shows up that night, just like what kind of plan Ward chooses to fight with.

    Don't disregard Abraham just yet...
     
  8. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I dont know who Ill be rooting for in this one, but I think its a dangerous fight for Ward, that he should win comfortably. If that makes sense lol.

    If AA does land that punch, and wins.... it will shake up a lot of things and will put a new angle in the division yet again. If he gets a boxing lesson like most expect, then we get Ward vs Froch/Johnson winner in what garuntees to be an event, especially if its Froch and he gets by Johnson impressively.
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes it is a foregone conclussion that Ward will win. I noted before AA was beaten that he was a lazy fighter with limitations and that Froch would beat him and possibly expose him as a hype job, I also questioned AAs power when he is taken the distance by a WW that Mosely blasted out. AA was made into a monster by American Super 6 promotion and hype.
    I wouldnt be shocked if AA after complaining of Wards dirty tactics goes back to his corner and doesnt come back out before the fight is over for a rare Ward inside the distance victory
     
  10. DocLouis

    DocLouis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm rather surprised that a few people here are even giving AA a puncher's chance at this point. IMO, Froch is top-class, so I don't follow the belief of "well, if Froch beat him easily ANYONE can beat him easily," but given both these guys' last 2 performances, yes I'd say it's a foregone conclusion, AA will lose via UD if not TKO.
     
  11. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

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    :lol::rofl:patsch What do you think I am, Google? You do the research.

    And who is that Glass Jawed fraud in your avatar? It looks like Lucy Bute.:think
     
  12. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Id say 80% chance Ward UD

    10% chance Ward by RTD where Abe quits

    10% AA KO Ward is there to be hit but its unlikely
     
  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    46-0 has made some fantastic predictions which I have witnessed. In fact I have never seen 46-0 predict wrong.
    Anyhow Laffie heres some prediction threads from my very own library

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=250453
    Just look at when this thread was created and what has happend since

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271001

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=246735
     
  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    The whole Super Six has been full of surprises, and unforseen events. I expect Ward to win a boring but wide UD, but this is boxing, and in boxing, **** happens.
     
  15. Predator

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    :nono You are close to crossing the line buddy.

    The Team Elite award ceremony is the most prestigious award ceremony in all of boxing. :deal

    You are just hurting that I made a thread about your fraud hero having a fragile Glass Mandible. :hey

    I will have you know that 46and0 predicted that Paul Williams would become a Glass Jawed fighter nearly one year before his brutal and embarrassing KO loss at the hands of Sergio "Maravilla" Martinez. :happy

    That was Chinchecking at its finest. :deal