Is Andre Ward overrated?

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  1. persianprince

    persianprince Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lets be honest guys, the only good name Ward has faced is Kessler, and stylistic that fight was made for him, and he also cheated his way to victory. Yeah i know Ward isn't entataning, and also how he beats his opponents is impressive. But he always wants to fight in Oakland with CALIFORNIAN referee, and its good that Sauerland made it clear, that they WANT a neutral referee, they learned their leason at the Kessler fight. He might be undefeated but his resume is far from Froch. Pascal,Taylor,Dirrell, and a way more dominating victory over AA than ward's victory. Remember he faced Taylor in the US, Kessler in Denmark and AA in Helsinki, he is also about to face Johnson in America. I really hope that Froch wins the super six, it's the only fair thing.

    An other question: IF team Ward refuced to fight anywhere but in California, what should happend? If you ask me then Froch should be named the winner of the Super six, and pray to god, that the WBA strips him :D
     
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  2. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, he's properly rated as the #1 SMW and fringe top 10 P4P.
     
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  3. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    He is a tad, can't stand the ****er, he was outboxing Kessler quite nicely which meant no need for bull**** headbutts.
     
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  4. TheChump

    TheChump Active Member Full Member

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    I still think he's a blown up middleweight his punches are just too feather fisted at 168.Good fighter but wont be an atg or anything will be remembered for his headbutts and in general scrappy dirty fight style some might say the new hopkins.
     
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  5. persianprince

    persianprince Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Couldn't said it better, he outboxed Kessler with brilliant style. But the headbutts should almost have him disc.
     
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  6. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    He won the LHW olympic gold in 2004.

    Clearly he's not a middleweight, look at the mans build for **** sakes. :patsch:lol:
     
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  7. Kingkazim

    Kingkazim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Resume wise hes not number one, so in that respect he is ovverated

    But skills pay the bills, he might just be the best SMW fighter head to head
     
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  8. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who is better resume wise?
     
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  9. Kingkazim

    Kingkazim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I personally think its Froch

    (Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler (yes he lost but twas a great fight), Abraham, Johnson)

    ^^Thats a legacy to be proud of thus far
     
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  10. TheChump

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    yea i have and his build is a perfect middleweight
     
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  11. MrMagic

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    Froch has strung together a great list of opposition lately, he's been taking the road of a warrior, whereas there are frauds in the division (Lucian Bute) who is fighting his very pre-title left overs.

    I think him and Ward are neck to neck, Ward has dominating victories over Kessler,Abraham,Bika and Miranda. (The latter two not much to write home about)
     
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  12. persianprince

    persianprince Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Defiently . But should Ward beat Froch fair and honestly, then Ward is without question number 1 SMW. But whoever wins Super six, gotta face KEssler. Because he wil carry the WBC belt, and since KEssler is the special champion of WBC, then its 100% for sure he wil face the WBC champion in the future. But i seriously hope that Kessler whoops Bute in Canada, so the winner of that potiential fight walks out as the undisputed SMW champion ;)
     
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  13. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    What 8lbs would he shed? He's pure muscle for **** sakes. :lol::patsch
     
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  14. Kingkazim

    Kingkazim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. Much respect to the cobra

    But id give Ward more respect for his Kessler&Bika fights than the Miranda and Abraham fights

    Bika was a monster that night
     
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  15. R.B.J

    R.B.J Active Member Full Member

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    No. He's in the bottom half of the p4p rankings. Once he obtains a signature victory, he should vault into the top 5.
     
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