Is Andriy Kotelnik a Hard Puncher - Lets examine the resume

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  1. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You cannot blame Warren for how Khan trained, that is down to the trainer (which was Rubio at the time) and not the promoter.
     
  2. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No they got Khan this strength conditoning ex army guy who getting Khan to do lots of weight lifting bull ****.
     
  3. REEVO

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    I remember reading a article were they were just concentrating building the legs up as this would add to power, theres no point having a huge frame with nothing to hold it...
     
  4. Darni187

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    I am not saying Khan before weight lifting had a good chin, but these factors could of been adding to the problem.

    It would be safe to say Dr.Roach will not be relying on the extra weight to help his chin, but planning to use Khan's improved defence and footwork in the fight to win.
     
  5. REEVO

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    This is true...... the power lies in technique and timeing not in a weight.
     
  6. chesh

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    Kotelnik by KO between 8 and 10.
     
  7. SouthpawSlayer

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    i see khan winning kotelnik just too slow
     
  8. Darni187

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    Thanks for your great input and views :good
     
  9. Darni187

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    Yep that's why Dr.Roach's team have reshaped Khan's body and slimed him down to increase his speed and movement, and hoping his timing of punches improves over time like Manny.
     
  10. chesh

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    I didn't think it needed further clarification, but here goes:

    Khan's chin won't get better. It's bad, very bad. His defence and movement, though, are undoubtedly improving under Roach, but I feel he has a stamina problem. Khan will keep out of harm's way in the first half of the fight, but use up a lot of nervous energy in the process (as in the MAB fight - he looked knackered when it was stopped). Kotelnik's not a banger, but is a world-class fighter and has enough power and savvy to take out a tiring, slowing Khan in the later stages of the fight.:good
     
  11. brown bomber

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    I don't think Kotelnik is the monster he's been made out to be. He's a good, upright European class fighter. rewind 10 years and he wouldn't even have a spot in the top ten. He is a fortunate title holder with one or two moderately impressive international victiories.

    Kotelnik Vs Romanov- who wins? That pretty much answers what level Kotelnik is operating at. All he is, is a resonably heavy handed basic fighter. Khan should win this all day.
     
  12. MattMattMatt

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    Well done Amir, you had to get KOed to realise that professional boxing is a professional sport. Top marks.
     
  13. nufc16

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    I think kotelnik has greater power than his record suggests. his style isnt one of going out looking to knock a guy out from round one, plus he starts slow generally. if khan fights in a similar style to the barrera fight then he should win, but it depends if he can keep that up for the full 12, something which i have doubts about, and i reckon he'll need to get a KO before the late rounds or end up getting caught and stopped late on.
     
  14. Darni187

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    Would a 22 year guy be a bit nervous stepping in with a ATG after just 2 fights ago he got KTFO in under a 1 min by a unknown fighter? maybe

    That was a bad clash of heads, I remember seeing Khan's face after a few days after the fight it swelled up pretty bad around his eye, God knows how much pain he was in, look at MAB's cut must of been a hard clash but still he did not show any pain.

    You are right about nervous energy, Dr.Roach has been trying to get Khan to relax more in the ring, but i guess he will naturally with time become more relaxed with his age and more fights.

    Maybe at 140 more his natural weight he will feel better on fight nights.

    I dont think there is anything wrong with his stamina Khan has done 12 rounds before without any problems.
     
  15. kosaros

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    Not much was really come back in that fight though, although I don't think Khan does have a stamina problem, but is inevitable that he will indeed become slower in the latter rounds.