Is Anthony Joshua done at world level?

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  1. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I make Anthony Joshua now 0-3 at world level fights since 2021.

    I would not include the MMA fighter, Wallin, Hellenius or Franklin as world level.

    He lost twice to Usyk and has now lost to Dubois.

    Is AJ done at world level, and does he need to drop down back to the Wallin's of the world to be capable of winning fights.
     
  2. Boxing_Fan101

    Boxing_Fan101 Undisputed Available bookgoodies.com/a/1068623705 Full Member

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    Can you see him beating any of these guys - Fury, Usyk, Dubois, Zhang, Bakole, Hrgovic He would be the heavy unerdog in all fights

    Now styles make fights he does has the edge against Parker, Wilder, Whyte, Joyce and Chisora

    Most likely he'll fight Wilder next, Matchroom will find a way to weasel out of the rematch then a final cash out against Fury
     
  3. djfonti

    djfonti Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Depends on the sport. I still think he could win World's Strongest Man.
     
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  4. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't get it.

    • Usyk beats Joshua by close decision and struggles.
    • Usyk comfortably beats Dubois by KO.

    Which means Joshua is better than Dubois. But:

    • Dubois beats Joshua by vicious KO.

    Where's the logic in that ?
     
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  5. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Triangle theory doesn't work - and saying that Usyk "struggled" against AJ isn't true. AJ had 1 round out of 24 in which he looked like he might win (round 9 of the 2nd fight when he landed a big body shot), other than that, Usyk won clearly.
     
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  6. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The second fight was fairly even going to the 10th round. But Usyk clearly won the next 3 rounds.
     
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  7. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you consider Top 10 a world level then you have to add Wallin.
     
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  8. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Honestly I could still see him beating Bakole and Hrgovic. I think he's a slight underdog against Zhang and Fury. Usyk and Dubois, well we saw what we saw.
     
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  9. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wallin is not consensus world level top 10.

    Boxrec has him at 14 and that is very debatable. What is his best win?
     
  10. destruction

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    Bakole stops AJ and Hrgovic even if he has spent his training camp in the local bar like he did for Dubois wins a UD.
     
  11. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    BoxRec? The same algorythm that had Joshua as number 1 recently? Lol.

    Wallin was a Top 10 guy according to The Ring, ESPN and Bad Left Hook and Top 5 (!) guy according to TBRB when he faced AJ.
     
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  12. Boxing_Fan101

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    Both Hrgovic and Bakole have solid chins and good power, given AJ doesn't like pressure they just need to put it on him and he'd crumble

    The blueprint is obvious similar to how Fury exposed Wilder
     
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  14. destruction

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    What is Wallin’s best win which qualifies him for the top 10?
     
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  15. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ask the independent ranking outlets. Top 10 guys near 8-9-10 position usually don't have any big wins and are rated based off of potential, good streak, sometimes good performance in losses.