Is Anthony Joshua the HW Bogeyman?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Mitch87, Feb 3, 2019.


  1. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Spot on was going to say pretty much the same thing, add to that he has the best resume of any active heavy weight.
    I don't think he's being ducked by fighters, I think he's a product of his/matchroom/hearn's success.
    Just as Hearn was close to monopolising the sport(or so he thought).
    1. Wilder v Fury - happened
    2. Itv boxing/pbc deal happened(free to air championship boxing on terrestrial TV for the first time in years)
    3. Fixture clash (Queensbury promotion schedule Frampton v Warrington title fight on the same night as whyte v chisora)
    4. Fury v Wilder 2 (ordered by the WBC at 60/40 split tying both fighters up for the April Wembley date)
    5. Whyte turns down 5 million to fight Joshua at Wembley meaning the April date has no credible opponent.

    Coincidence I don't think so, I think other promoter's are conspiring, and as much as I like the things Hearn has done for boxing iam glad that it's happening.
    Boxing is corrupt enough without some one having the monopoly.
    I know that I went a bit off track lol but bogeymen are avoided because the risk vs reward doesn't balance.
    This cannot be true for any heavy weight out there, as the risk vs reward favours any challenger who steps in with Joshua.
    As no fighter generates any where near the money Joshua does, and their talent rarely justifies their right to challenge him and offer little extra financially.

    In short lol Joshua isn't a bogeyman but I think if someone else doesn't step up (in terms of profile) the rest of his career he will be fighting bogeymen, Fury could and should change that as he has the talent/personality/victories/profile to challenge joshuas dominance.
     
  2. nickpoppunk

    nickpoppunk Unbelievable Bentekkers Full Member

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    wilder, fury and whyte can make decent money fighting each other.

    when they fight AJ for bigger money and possibly lose, that will be the end of the 'decent' pay days.

    i get why they dont want to fight AJ but its a poor showing when they are being offered mega money which they wont get fighting each other.
    when wilder,fury,wilder possibly get a loss they will be screaming for an AJ payday.

    just how it is.


    fair play to miller. take the payday (possible win, lucky shot) and become a millionaire. Miller is too big to have a long career IMO
     
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  3. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    I'd say no but nobody wants to fight him unless they get to fleece him for more money that they can justify asking for.

    History of this sport shows us that those demanding too much money for a fight that can benefit them so much are usually doing it because they are not confident of beating that opponent.

    I've never known a fighter offer double or treble an opponents highest ever earnings and get accused of lowballing them.

    I've never known unified world champion having to beg to get people to face them.
     
  4. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So either the offers aren't good enough or the offers are good but the opponents are idiots. I don't see a boogeyman angle
     
  5. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    There’s a valid argument in there, somewhere. He offers opponents the chance to make more money than they’ve ever earned, and the chance to be the unified heavyweight champion. And people are avoiding it.

    Of course there are many other theories as well.
     
  6. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    Dude is spot on. It's funny how all these fighters he's trying to get in the ring seem to have better options elsewhere.
     
  7. Mccoy28

    Mccoy28 New Member Full Member

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    Thw reason whyte turned down the fight is because in the contract he was obligated to take the rematch and even if he won in the contract joshua would get the lions share of the money even if whyte was champion, whytes argument is when i knock out joshua and become world heavtweight champion why should i be forced to a rematch and still be the b side. Whyte has now said he will wait it out force the fight through a mandatory position where a rematch isnt in the contract so then when he knocks out joshua and joshua wants his belts back whyte can dictate the terms and say your getting a flat rate 20% or theres no fight. Hes fighting against the greedyness of matchroom and i for one think hes doing the right thing
     
  8. Mccoy28

    Mccoy28 New Member Full Member

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    Whyte even said how about this ill take the fight on those terms but if i win in the rematch joshua gets the terms im getting for the first fight, hearn took this proposal to joshua and he said no..