Is any of this wrong?

Most of them can't answer bc they started watching boxing when Manny beat Oscar and the only fighter they watched after that is Manny.

 

Man, let's get real. Floyd has been on "vacation" or "retired" for 3 and a half YEARS during the time since Manny took over the mantle. THAT, plain and simple, is why he doesn't deserve the #1 ranking.

 

Styles make fights and theres so many different ways to look at it Mosely yes was deemed the man of the welterweight division but looking back it was all of that margarito win after which he had a huge lay off. I think after hattons lazcano fight he went on to beat malinaggi impressively. But again i have to agree mayweather got to hatton and de la hoya before pac.

but I give mad props to pc for fighting margarito that was a dangerous fight don't let the score cards or anyone else tell you otherwise

now pound4pound?? its a toss up between the 2 but i can see why people have sided with pac for his willingness to take it to the trenches in recent years (cot to and margarito)

 

Floyd has a career based on hypothetical victories, "he would have beat Cotto", "he would have beat Margarito". yea well if Tyson never fought Douglas we would just assume he would have won as well.

you can't retire in the middle of a surge in your division, then come back when all the opposition has beat each other and just automatically reclaim pfp1

 

pac's resume si better than floyds. he didn't become #1 just because floyd retired. he earned it by destroying DLH, cotto, clottey and margo while moving up in weight. p4p ranking is not solely based who is better. after hatton whom had floyd beat? jmm - lightweight had to jump 2 weight classes, old mosley who hadn't had a fight for a year and whom a margo defeat was his only meaningful victory for more than 2 year. you're saying that floyd answer with that of pac's is old daddy shane? geez

 

Sorry, but many would disagree with that assessment. Sure you could say a fighter can be more prone to ring rust, but longevity and consistency is a big part of what makes people a true champion in many peoples, eyes. Hence why a guy like Robinson is considered the GOAT. Besides that, Floyd has known hand troubles and has to inject his hands from the pain of fighting. The reality is, if he fought more often, his hands would be more prone to injury, thus putting him at greater risk of losing. No different than a fighter who has built up a lot of scar tissue over time from numerous wars.

 

Oh, I get it now.. you're just trolling, and really weren't looking for serious responses. Carry on, then by all means.

 

LOL. when jordan came back for the last time what had he done? jordan was looked as better because of what he had accomplished and not what his current state is. and what jordan has done will not be surpassed for the time being.

and you're comparing jordan accomplishments with floyds? LOL

 

Im not going to get into the whole 'who is p4p number 1' because i think its pretty pointless. Both have had great careers and were as i would favour PBF to beat Pac the only way we will really know is if they get it on.

However i will say that Pac's stock grew imensely after the DLH and Hatton victorys and quite rightly.

The OP makes some good points about the lead up to both fights but he greatly down plays Pacs part in them.

Yes DLH was very much past his best but what is largely forgotten now by alot of people on here (mainly because Pac destroyed DLH) was that DLH was a overwhelming favourite going into that fight. Infact, i remember a poll on here before the fight and about 90% of posters said DLH would win and about 50% said they would be boycotting the fight because they were absolutly disgusted in what was then viewed as a massive mis-match. They thought that DLH was picking on a much smaller guy and should have instead fought Cotto or Margarito. Regardless of what we now think you can't take away the fact that Pac beating DLH was quite a large upset in top level fights in recent years.

As for the Hatton fight the OP is right in pointing out that Hatton looked poor against Lazcano but he seems to have forgotten that after this fight and prior to the Pac fight Hatton looked good in dominating and eventually stopping Paulie Mallinaggi who most would admit is a better fighter than Lazcano. Whilst Pac was favoured to win this fight he wasn't an overwhelming favourite. Many people thought that Hatton would be to strong for Pac and could rough him up and wear him out down the strech.

 

When Mayweather "retired" Pac took over.

Fighting 3 times in 4 years doesn't cut it.

From the start of 2008 Mayweather has JMM, SM and Ortiz, in the same period Pac has JMM, Diaz, ODLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Tony and SM. THAT's why he's P4P no1.

Don't get me started on your bull**** spin either.