Is anybody worried about James Toney's weight loss hurting him?

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  1. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm rooting for JT this weekend and think he'll box this guy's ears off, but do you think the weight cutting could hurt him in this fight. Yes he did/does need to lose weight, but he's 43 now and weighed 157 in his last fight. :think

    No I'm not getting any excuses ready for this weekend, but I'm just a little worried this could be a problem. He hasn't fought at Cruiserweight since 2003.

    I'm hoping he cut the weight the right way and he doesn't exert himself too much in the ring and is the most relaxed fighter out there so maybe his conditioning won't fail him
    What yall think?

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  2. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    he has had plenty of time to lose his fat....no excuses.......
     
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  3. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    how long has he been cutting for?
     
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  4. SweetHome_Bama

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    It is a sneaking suspicion on mine that it will be a negative in the fight, but he doesn't get hit flush a lot so he'll be in better shape than Roy.
     
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  5. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm more worried about his age than his weight as Toney's had enough time to properly burn it off. He hasn't exactly looked spectacular in his last couple of fights.
     
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  6. Hermit

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    At least its a 'svelte' 157. :patsch
    But to the original question, I really don't worry about him for any reason. :lol:
     
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  7. Ulver

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    Toney has shed 57 pounds way too fast, meaning he also lost muscle tissue along with the weight and will be seriously weakened. Toney's reflexes are gone, he can't slip punches anymore, and he's going to be hurt badly by Lebedev.
     
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  8. Ulver

    Ulver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He gets hit easily now. He got hurt badly by total bum Matt Greer. He's so punch-drunk he can barely speak. He's got the cursed "Bad News Buddy" in his corner. Everything about this fight spells disaster for Toney.
     
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  9. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

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    Keyword. It isn't the same situation as Jones vs Tarver II or Tarver vs Hopkins where they were losing 25lbs and 45lbs almost entirely of muscle. Almost everything he lost was fat and his style doesn't rely upon movement or conditioning the same way Jones and to a lesser extent Tarver's did.
     
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  10. Scar

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    It will definitely hurt him. I'll be surprised if his punch resistance remains the same coming down in weight like that.
     
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  11. Ulver

    Ulver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Toney hasn't looked good in a fight since the first Sam Peter fight over 5 years ago.

    If he did win, I can only imagine what the MMA crowd would be saying, laughing that he can beat a top cruiserweight but got blown out by old Randy Couture in UFC. Dana White would have a field day.

    But he ain't gonna win.
     
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  12. 555east

    555east Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see all the weight loss being a negative, and Toney making excuses post fight
     
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  13. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This. The drama of this fight is whether Lebedev will get the KO. People picking Toney are nutty:nut
     
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  14. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Damn this may be worse than I thought. I was going to use this thread to make my decision on whether to put a lot of Vcash on him or not :?
     
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  15. eazym1979

    eazym1979 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    when you have to lose that much way in a short amount of time its tough and when you

    factor in toney age he better ended early there's more then a good chance he'll gas

    late
     
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