Is Arum's decision on Mosley, actually hurting Pac.?

Nah, if Marciano, Hoya, and tons of others are allowed to fight shadows of good fighters then Pacquiao is entitled to some easy money at this point. Here's a fact: Pacquiao would whup JMM, Berto, and Mosley and pretty much anyone else from 140-154. The only two guys who would trouble him now are Floyd, who for obvious reasons can't get a fight, and Martinez. And asking a former flyweight to try and beat the lineal mw champ is a little silly.

 

It doesn't hurt his legacy, if he beats Mosley how can that hurt his legacy? It just doesn't enhance it, not significantly anyway. At this stage though, with two virtually meaningless fights on the trot (in terms of the current scene) i'm going to start giving credit to other fighters on the p4p lists, if fighters are going to achieve good things now they are going to sneak up on Manny for me, because these fights he's having are pointless.

 

What if he treads water at 147 or 54? Picks up belts, maybe a ring title or two? I also dont think the Tony fight was that bad. Biggest opponent beaten yet, a guy who people said Mayweather actively avoided, former #1 ranked welterweight with a lot to prove. I don't buy the notion that he or any of these guys so far is "shot" except for Mosley. That boat sailed ages ago.

 

I'm saying his options suck. The bradley-alexander winner has to fight Khan first at any rate. Berto wouldn't have been a bad pick as far as legacy goes, but he doesn't really have a chance. Nor would he bring a lot of PPV draws. He's just too unknown and he has not proven himself ONCE against a top tier Welter. Let him rack up some belts and then it will be a more legitimate challenge, cause right now I can't shake my mental image of a guy who got his **** rocked by Collazo.

Mosley is the worst option though for sure, although he's probably the most profitable sadly from a PPV standpoint. The bobfather ruins all.

 

It hurts his legacy that he hasnt done everything to make a fight with the no1 147lb fighter since being there for 2 1/2 years (come May).

Fighting Mosley over Marquez/Berto is not a bad option by any means, Mosley has looked poor in his last 2, but that maybe an illusion and stylistically fighting Pacquaio suits him far better than his last 2 fights. Berto is unlikely to go down as great as Mosley despite being in his prime now, many were pickign Mosley to destroy Berto 12months ago. Marquez is an awful lot smaller than Mosley

However I find everyone who says 'Pac would definitely beat Marquez easy' pretty insulting and ignorant, considered Marquez won about 16 out of 24 rounds in 2 fights against Pac I'm puzzled how that makes an easy fight even if Pac is bigger now and JMM a little faded but styles make fights and JMM has Pacs number aswell as anyone not named Mayweather

 

Nah the win might be decent in hindsight in years to come but in terms of the current boxing scene Margarito was a pointless fight. The only thing of note Margo has done in ages was get ****ing brutalised by Mosley

 

Pacquiao's bigger too, but also smarter. His blocking and head movement at least has gotten much better, he's throwing a wider variety of shots, and he showed some great feinting/drawing and countering against Cotto. I think the combination of physical stuff and pacquiao's progress would make the JMM fight a LOT less competitive than it seems, certainly he would knock JMM down multiple times

True, i think the wraps thing totally ruined his chances at the mosley fight either way though, he was completely thrown off his game by that and i'm not surprised he got his **** rocked. Maybe if he had had a good comeback fight then it would have been looked at differently, but at least it was a fun fight with some exchanges. Certainly not as bad as Clottey. And not as awful as Mosley.

 

Wait so Margarito who hasn't done anything since Mosley dominated and destroyed him is a good win, but Mosley who hasn't done anything since he dominated and destroyed Margarito is not a good win. Boxing fan logic :nut

 

Oh yeah it was a really enjoyable fight, i just meant purely on a meaningful level :good

 

*shrug*

That was Mosley's swansong. I don't know whether it was the side effect of the handwraps scandal or what, but he dismantled Tony. Watching him since he looks awful; against Mayweather he gassed after a couple rounds and the Mora fight is one of the worst things i've ever watched, ever. He's just too old now, he just needs to throw in the towel. Tony was a live dog at least, I really don't think Shane will be for any given time. He can get really hurt in this fight, I dont wanna see it on any level

 

Mayweather's win over Mosley>Pacquiao's win over Margarito, it's not even debatable.

 

Agreed, although I think Pacquiao's win over Mosley would be completely meaningless, more so than the tony fight. Unless he shows us some new tricks, or KTFOs him, or something similar.