Is Asian boxing monitored properly as it seems dangerous?

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  1. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I feel Asian boxing is particularly dangerous. Maybe they don't do medicals as thorough or drug testing etc Whenever a death is report I feel like it's coming from APAC.

    Have I got it wrong?

    - fightnews.com
    Korean boxer Bae Ki-suk (7-7-1, 4 KOs) has sadly lost his battle for life after being TKO’d by Jung Jin-ki (7-9-1, 1 KO) in a match with for the vacant Korean super flyweight championship last Saturday. Bae underwent brain surgery, but unfortunately passed away after four days. It was the first ring tragedy in Korea since the death of former WBC light flyweight champion Choi Yo-sam in January 2008.
     
  2. Flea Man

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    African is bad too. I don't think anyone is particularly worse, just bad luck
     
  3. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

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    There are too many examples of durability in every continent for it to be a case of lesser bone density due to nationality. I don't buy that theory either.
     
  4. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Here's why its dangerous to me. Take a look at reigning WBC straweight champion Oleydong Sithmerchai's record:

    http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?cat=boxer&human_id=142288

    See that he won the title at the end of 2007.

    Now look at some of the fights he had after that, especially the unsanctioned ones, and look at the records when they fought the THai champion:

    John Cut Siregar (who he fought twice): 0 wins, 6 losses, 2 draws
    Darmea Jordan: 0 wins, 2 losses
    Adi Nukung: 0 wins, 3 losses

    These are the kind of guys who have no business getting in the same ring as a world champion. The result of such a fight is a foregone conclusion, and only bad things can happen when contests such as these are made.

    Now, just look who this Adi Nukung (mentioned above) has been fighting so far:

    http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=480412&cat=boxer

    That's just not right.

    I see this all the time, especially with Thai boxers. It's dangerous, and shouldn't be allowed to happen.
     
  5. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Whats the weigh-in rules over there for domestic fights? In the 80s a few Asian countries (mainly the Thais) used to be notorious for boiling their fighters down to dangerous weights for same day weighins.
     
  6. Flea Man

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    Thai Boxers often come from Muay Thai backgrounds. One of them knocked out renowned Bantam hardman Borkhorsor IN HIS DEBUT FIGHT!!!!!!

    Also, take into accoutn incomplete records.

    Mind you, look at Pongs last opponent :rofl woeful
     
  7. Flea Man

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    :deal

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zsLXOc65dw[/ame]
     
  8. D-MAC

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    I did, but Nukung's six fights in just over a year against opposition with a combined record of 129-12 seemed like a complete enough record to me.
     
  9. Flea Man

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    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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  11. Flea Man

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    Who sparked him in the first? Kittikasem?
     
  12. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    He beat him but not by KO1.

    edit: just checked, he beat him twice both times mid-round KO.
     
  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Pong's last opponent was thought to be pretty handy and durable though Flea.

    I think it is more the prevailance of unsanctioned bouts and in a poor country often these have minimal health and medical cover so obviously if something does go wrong they do not have much scope for getting the correct medical care. As opposed to Britain we are fairly affluent and our 'unsanctioned' fights are up to a fairly high standard in medical safety.


    Also as Flea stated the mis-matches although I think some of these 'mis-matches' could actually be caused due to incomplete record keeping, where it says its a debutant but he has actually fought afew unsanctioned fights or was a top class martial artist in another discipline.
     
  14. Reuben

    Reuben L.A.M.B Full Member

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    I have noticed this, it seems a huge % of deaths in boxing are in the lighter weights in Asia.
     
  15. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    The only reason I didn't note lighter weights is because they are just generally smaller so 90% of their guys must fight under 147 or something.