Is Ben Davidson the worst trainer of all time?

Wasn't even thinking of him either to be honest with you but yeah that's another one.

 

To be fair he was in Wardley's corner (who strongly defended him as a coach) when he stopped Clarke.

 

No. He is leagues ahead of many others.

 

No. He wouldn’t have the success that he has if he was.

 

For real. I think Davidson actually tries. Scott seems like a total grifter.

 

Anthony Yarde's trainer Tunde has levels of awfulness that Boxercise Ben has never even seen.

 

I think he is a top fitness coach and motivator but he is a mediocre trainer. He would be super effective as a fitness coach/second trainer behind a top boxing trainer like McGuigan or BoMac, however he is already leading the training of some good fighters.

His rise with Fury's comeback does carry his reputation a lot.

 

this is the main one.

he is the best assistant manager in the game. but if he leads the line you'll get a very supple, well trained proffesional who is rudderless when the fight changes midway.

those videos of him showing tricks and moves, where he clearly just watched a couple of yt shorts is embarrassing. but then again he is always trying to improve.

you just have that feeling after a bad round the fighter sits down sips some water and stares at BD who has a look of "what you want to do boss"

 

Is he worse than Jack Loew? Mike Stafford? Joe Gallagher?

 

Virgil Hunter failed at every other project besides Andre Ward.
Granted, some of them were damaged goods like Berto and Angulo, but his list of failures is quite extensive.

And I don´t think even Hunter is the worst prominent/well known trainer.
Ann Wolfe is one of the worst. I don´t get why so many thought that she made Kirkland special, and that Kirkland would not have lost to Ishida if Ann had been there.
Her entire shtick was physical toughness and it happened to work with Kirkland. Until it didn´t.
FFS, they had an entire storyline about how Kirkland´s pro career was saving that little gym he worked out of. If Wolfe had been such a great trainer, they would have produced at least a few more prominent names.

Also shout out to Buddy McGirt! Hes not by any means a terrible trainer, but when I see him in someones corner it likely means that someone is going to loose.
That man is cursed.

 

Agree about Wolfe. Running fighters to the ground isn't proper training.

 

It's down to the fighter not the trainer

No fighter hitting their 30's switching trainers is going to change much. One hit on the chin and it's natural instincts. AJ is a bum, he gets tired, tagged once or has a panic attack pre fight then there is nothing that any trainer can do for him.

Most fighters are pretty much SET in their ways once they turn pro...

My problem with Ben is he is very defence minded, disengaged is not the best defence if you have better stamina than your opponent. Floyd in his prime never disengaged in fights only when his hands turns to poo and he started fighting bigger or sexier opponents did he start creating defensive distance to slow the pace and draw out the fight to his advantage.

 

I think McGirt is a good trainer but he's just settled into his role as being the trainer you hire when you're past your prime and looking to squeak out a few more wins and a few more paycheques. The work McGirt did with Janibek was really solid imo and helped him turn into a more polished pro instead of the still quite raw, amateur style he debuted with.

 

Andy Lee's gameplan for Parker vs Wilder was way more effective than whatever it was he had him doing vs Wilder