Is Bernard Hopkins a top 30 All-Time Great

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  1. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Harada clearly outranks Pacquiao despite Pacquio's weight jumping which seems to have clouded everyone's judgement.
     
  2. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Thank you very much :)
     
  3. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    Who the hell are Brazier and Jones,wouldn't Nelson,Vasquez,Ramirez and Haugen have been far better examples than those two.
     
  4. Sweet Pea

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    Haugen would be a great example, otherwise he didn't do much in-fighting in the other 3 fights, therefore no, they wouldn't be better examples of his inside skills. Brazier was a very experienced, crafty veteran whom Whitaker thoroughly outclassed and put on a clinic of in-fighting against, whereas Jones was larger, harder puncher whom Jones out-fought in close throughout most of the fight and generally gave a beating. Never said they were great fighters, just great displays from Pea, particularly the Brazier bout, which was virtually a flawless performance.
     
  5. The Phenom

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    Don't get me wrong man I have the utmost respect for Pernell Whitaker and his accomplishments.I also disagree that he was a boring fighter.I loved watching the Mcgirt fights and the Roger Mayweather fight in particular is an underrated gem.
    Moreover name one notable opponent whom Anthony Jones defeated.
     
  6. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    No. He's set inside the top 50 for me, I could see him cracking the top 40 as of the moment, but I haven't recently made a list that goes that far.
     
  7. martin0792

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    He was robbed against Joe and has never been beaten convincingly.
     
  8. JonOli

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    No, not top 30 for me.
     
  9. sonny73

    sonny73 Active Member Full Member

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    In every sport the athletes have improved vastly over the years due to diet training conditioning and genetics so you can only judge on how they performed in their own era's.I dont buy that nearly all the best fighters fought in the 60's and 70's and were mostly American.All this tells me is that the original people who make these lists are also American and in there 50' and 60's themselves because they have such a fond memory of those era's.
     
  10. Sweet Pea

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    An undefeated Vince Phillips.
     
  11. McGrain

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    That's laughable.
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No, we're not.

    We've reached an impass where i've pointed out Hearns has greater success through the weights and has a better win resume and you don't seem to disagree, but still think Hopkins should be ranked ahead of Hearns.
     
  13. McGrain

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    I hate to be a dick, Flea, but this is shockingly bad. Impossible to defend in fact.
     
  14. McGrain

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    OK, fair enough, but still.
     
  15. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's just too many greats with a body of work built up against tougher fighters in tougher era's to go top 30.