Is Bill Gore one of the greatest trainers ever?

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  1. Nicky P

    Nicky P Jamiva Boxing Full Member

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    here is a list of the fighters he's trained

    Roy Harris
    Tony Licata
    Joey Archer
    Bob Foster
    Joe Brown
    Willie Pep
    Ezzard Charles
    Cleveland Williams
    Manuel Gonzalez
    Del Flanagan
    Mike McTigue
    Melino Bettina
    Johnny Cesario
    Bobby Woods
    Danny Nardico


    "Pep’s trainer was Bill Gore of Providence, RI. This was the man who took not only the natural athleticism –the timing, the speed, but also the nervous energy of a teenage Guglielmo Papaleo and built a foundation of skill underneath it. Pep was a savant. Gore was the strategist behind him, watching films, analyzing the nightmare style of Sandy Sandler, devising a battle plan to win the rematch."


    The Ninth God Of War: Willie Pep
    By Springs Toledo from Sweet Science


    So if he taught Pep his style as a teen and all the way up through his career as a pro, then he HAS to be one of the greatest trainers ever, right?

    And does anyone know if there are any books on Bill Gore?
     
  2. Unforgiven

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    He certainly was one of the best.

    I tend to measure the worth of a trainer on how he develops a kid from scratch.
    You see a lot of the big name trainers just work with established star fighters (with mixed results), I think that proves a lot less actually. OK, they must be pretty good, but it says more about their personality and ambition and standing in the business than it does about their pure competence as teachers of boxing.

    Of course, fighters' own testimonies are valuable too. A lot of credit needs to be given to some great fighters themselves, who learn easily or have a natural instict for boxing.
     
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    My trainer was Bill Gore, the man who trained the Light-Heavyweight Champion of the - World, Emilio Bettina, and he was a great trainer for me. Most recently, Bill trained Cleveland Williams, Roy Harris and Manny Gonzales when he fought ...
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    Another book with lotsa "Gore" would be Cornermen by Ron Fried.
     
  4. Nicky P

    Nicky P Jamiva Boxing Full Member

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    yeah i agree with pretty much everything you've said. you take a kid, give him a fitting style, take him on up through the amateurs into the pros..... that's a real teacher/trainer. A lot of trainers nowadays just hijack fighters who already have skills and a set style. as good as people say that emanuel steward is, i've never heard of any of his more famous fighters being taught from scratch by him.
     
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    Nicky P Jamiva Boxing Full Member

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    thanks, i have Cornermen and unfortunately he isn't one of the cornermen that they dedicate a whole chapter to. he's just mentioned in it. i'm gonna order Friday's Heroes though. Thanks. Have you read Friday's Heroes?
     
  6. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes recommended, although Pep and the ghostwriter make Joe Miceli sound like gods gift to the prizering.