Is boxing experiencing an Asian invasion?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BENNY BLANCO, Oct 2, 2009.


  1. Ripple633

    Ripple633 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah I've seen some American Filipinos that are 6'2, I'm pretty sure some of them can be top contenders at WW.
     
  2. jrhjoker

    jrhjoker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it is just a fad going thru it will be over once they fight world class contenders instead of these DUMPTRUCKS THEY FIGHT:patsch
     
  3. Dominicano

    Dominicano Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Here we go again. Ever since Manny has been around the number of Asian champs have increased. 2 are in the lb for lb list and 1 guy sonosa just won a belt. Viloria beat a great fighter in Solis etc, etc. . When was there ever a precedent like this. It is just that you have never seen this many before because there has never been this many getting shots at recognition and being drawn here and invited to fight. Chris John is a damn good fighter that we would have never seen. Mayol almost took it from Calderon like no one before him. etc. I hope there are more because I want to see the best come out the woodwork and not just fight in their home country. I hope we see more good fighters coming out of cuba, venezuela and columbia as well as they have shown to have good solid fighters.
     
  4. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    I doubt Korea ever builds back up that much. The money is too much better in K-1 and MMA there. That said, China should start becoming bigger, as their boxing program becomes more developed, and the Philippines is probably going to keep getting stronger as kids start training to become boxers to follow in the footsteps of their idol Manny Pacquiao. Japan's pretty much the same as it's ever been. Nishioka only came to Mexico because Golden Boy won the purse bid. And maybe if Chris John and Daud Yordan can increase their star, boxing can become more popular in Indonesia, a country where it's never been a particularly big deal.
     
  5. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    First off, they're still smaller than Europeans generally, at least in terms of girth. Second, with bigger guys, (at least in Japan) you run into the same problem as we have in the states. There are more lucrative sports to get involved in that are easier to get involved in and less painful to get involved in. Someone who's 150+ and athletic is just a lot more likely to go into baseball or soccer. Unlike Europe but like the USA, Japan has free school sports, so it's very easy to get involved in one of those sports, giving those sports an advantage over boxing. Also, if someone wants to be a fighter and is 170+, MMA and K-1 are generally more lucrative there than boxing.
     
  6. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ]:nono:nono I am surprised that so many of the posts on this thread are very uninformed.If anything theres been a decline of fighters from Korea,Thailand long known for many quality fighters in the division.No one has mentioned Pancho Villa the first ever asian champ who beat an atg Jimmy Wilde. Also Flash Elorde long considered the greatest phillipino fighter of all time until Manny. Im gonna just mention some world champs from the past Yoshio Shirai (50s fly champ) Dado marino (50s fly champ) Shozo Saijo(feather champ 60s) Fighthin Harada (ATG and HOF of the 60s) Yoshiaki Numata(Jl champ of 70s) Koichi Wajima(70s Jr MIddle champ) Eribito salivarra(70s Fly champ) Chartchai Chionoi(60s & 70s fly champ) Rolando Navarrate(70s early 80s Jl champ)Ben Villaflor(70s Jl champ) Ceferino Garcia(30s middle Champ and Rival of HenryArmstrong) Small Montana (30s fly champ) Boorksor(fly champ70s) Pone Kingpetch
    (60s Fly champ) Saesak Muangsurin(70s Jwelter champ and won title in 3rd or 4th fight) Sang junKim(70s champ) Chan hee park and Shoji Oguma(70s fly champs) Kuniaki SHibata(70s Lightweight Champ) Hiroshi Koyabashi(Jl champ) and these are Just guys before the 80s and Im sure Ive forgot alot more. Know that this list would be about triple the size if i put the guys post 1980 since they added more alphabet titlists. This is not a phase its just that Pacquio is more mainstream so it seems that way.Also you mentioned that there are 2 pfp asian guys,well this aint the first time Some of these guys were pfp guys in their days,and Guys after like Kaosai Galaxy,Jiro Watanabe,Myung woo yuh,JUng Koo Chang and maybe SUng kil moon.Not to mention guys that wee close like Penalosa,Luisito Espinosa,Yung kyun park(beat Esparragoza) Jesus Salud and more well you get what Im talking about. Hope this was informative to those who think good asian fighters is something new.:deal
     
  7. RomperStomper

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    Let them invade Pacquaio and Hasegawa are exciting as hell to watch.
     
  8. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    Honest to god, I dont think it has anything to do with them being asian.

    I think its because their names are so ****ing difficult to say. That sounds ridiculous, but I really believe thats why.

    You see some tapes of a good asian fighter, your a promoter, but they guy has a name you cant even pronounce that is 7 syllables long, you are going to pass him up. That is going to be a ***** to spell on a poster, and its not going to be even slightly recognizable by anyone that speaks english.

    Manny Pacquiao is blessed with having an easily pronounceable name, aside from his awesome skills
     
  9. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You might have a point:lol: Thats why some thiai fighters change theirs to a cool name like Kaosai Galaxy,I think some of the thai guys change their names to their promoter or managers Buisness name or some crazy thing like that:huhnot sure which one.or Chatchai Dutchboy gym,which are obviously not their real names.
     
  10. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    Nice post.

    Last time I was in Indonesia they had local boxing on free to air tv there.
     
  11. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One of my favorite punhers of the 80s Andy"The Hawaain Punch"Gannigan this guy was a serious banger he gave Arguello a big scare dropping him in the 1st round and giving him all he wanted Before Arguello knocked him out in the 5th. Gannigan also brutally knocked out Sean O"grady who was coming off a title win against Hilmer Kenty.
     
  12. doknochrisan

    doknochrisan Puncher Full Member

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    like malignani from queens?
     
  13. Dominicano

    Dominicano Well-Known Member Full Member

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    IMO Gerry Penalosa should have been fighting in the U.S. long time ago. He is old now but it seems that even in his old age he had more that enough ability to make a bid against fighters like Arce, Montiel, etc. We seemed to have only been able to really watch him at the tail end of his career. If Gerry is a indicator of unkown talent in the Philippines and Asia, the U.S. is missing out.
     
  14. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    BTW, what was the name of that korean feather who just retired that had an iron chin and excitng style.
     
  15. jrhjoker

    jrhjoker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    GERRY WAS boring in his his DAY.no FAN FOLLOWING.PROMOTERS ARE in it for the money not to lose it. PLUS he is ASIAN they dont sell out anywere. maybe just MANNY BUT THAT IS ONLY IN VEGAS.:smoke