Is Boxing In Better Hands With Pac as the P4P#1 Than it Was With Mayweather?

good post.

i haven't read any responses but i expect most people will go with pacman simply because he's such an exciting fighter every time.

but boxing lacks big draws at the middle and heavies - and floyd is a draw now.

pacman is a great fighter - as floyd is - but the hard truth is that boxing isn't going to move forward on lower weight 'phenoms'.

we could use both of them.

 

i agree with you word for word.

it will catch up to him soon.

but he's an awesome fighter.

 

I have a two part answer.

I voted for Mayweather because everybody loves a villain. I love hating on him as much as some love praising him but in the end he was good for boxing because he learned how to keep the world talking. Dancing With The Stars. Wrestlemania. De La Hoya. Hatton.

He'll be back.

As a die-hard boxing fan - I know it will be exciting to watch Pac carry the torch through the next year.

 

So if Floyd fought Forbes in Vegas would it sellout a 16,000 seat arena like MGM?

 

Nonsense. Floyd fought at the less recognizable weight classes in the heyday of guys like Oscar, Mosley and Tito. Notice this is another argument I use against Manny to show that he will never be a big attraction, and no Manny wont ever be a welter. Floyd sold decently enough at Welter against the likes of Judah and Baldomir, about the same amount Manny as sold fighting P4P greats like Morales and Marquez. Floyd in his first fight with a top 50 ATG sold the most in under heavyweight boxing history, his next fight nearly equaled that. Floyd was mainstream. Would Manny sell the same amount against De La Hoya? No. Hatton? No.

sports icon? You cant be serious.

How are more PPV buys short sighted and not better for the sport. :roll: Floyd was introducing more and more non fans to boxing and making the sport exciting again, interesting again, the country v country rivalry again outside of Puerto rico and Mexico.

Lol what? You invariably cite the De La Hoya fight, when yeah it wasnt that exciting, all fights cant be exciting, yet you leave out Floyds last fight against Hatton which was not only exciting but the biggest international event to hit boxing since Tyson V Lewis. The fans are still talking about Floyd and Roger and the Mayweathers, still intrigued by every crazy rant Floyd Sr gives about another fighter, a hell of alot more exciting then anything Manny brings to the table.

Flash in the pan promotions? Explain. 1 million back to back buys in one year doesnt seem flash to me. That sounds like boxing getting back some of its clout it brags about.

:-( Floyd never downgraded his selling power. Oscar V Floyd 2 would have still been a box office smash. People were already giving Oscar hope for the fight. Floyd calling off the fight was all over sports radio, ESPN ect. This wasnt a jab at Floyd as NEARLY as it was a sigh of anguish at the fact Floyd wasnt going to be fighting any of the top welters, for the simple fact people now want to see Floyd fight. If Floyd came back and fought any of the top welters it would still be an event, and nobody will really care about the Welter weight division in the mainstream until Floyd returns or another like him shows up.

 

I believe I said that Floyd was held back by the fact that he fought at the lower weights for most of his career, as to why he made the transition to welter, for bigger paydays, the fact he fought an unpleasing style and was a class above everyone he was match against, and the fact the Welter and lightmiddle weight divisions were stocked full of crowd pleasing talent, and the superstar that was Oscar de la hoya. How many buys did Pacman have fighting a fellow P4P top 5 guy, how many did Mayweather have fighting another P4P champion? Its not even comparable.

Not only is Manny the inferior fighter to Floyd, he also has never done 1 million buys, Floyd did this twice. Why would I admit something as ludicrous as that?

And no PPV buys dont mean anything to me. However they mean something to the sport of boxing, it means people are interested in your product.

 

no. did i suggest it would because he'øs a draw?

i don't understand what your point is?

i never said he was oscar.

 

My bad folks, I read your post wrong. Just avct like I never said anything :good

 

no problemo.

cheers :good

 

Nah nah nah . . . abject baffoon??? You're the one who needs to remove PBF';s dick out of your mouth.atsch :rofl

You need to straighten out your brain . . . too many blah blah blah . . . too much non sense. :-(

The topic is about BOXING IN BETTER HANDS if Pac as #1 p4p or Floyd as the #1 . . . so what do you want to talk about?

The one who sells higher big PPV number? Is that how you determine who's gonna be better for boxing?

You don't know **** of how boxing works . . . all you know is boxing as business based on people on the streets who doesn't religiously follow the sports. This is not about money and PPV's.

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Yeah suit yourself . . . genius!

:yep

 

You are merely trying to change the argument as to who sold more at the lower weights Manny or Floyd, when its inconsequential seeing as how Floyd ended his career at welter, and Manny will never reach Welter.

Just admit that Floyd was a better P4P candidate given the fact he is better and sold more then Manny will the rest of his career combined.

 

My criteria is PPV sales and boxing ability, and actually its a pretty poor argument from you. Mayweather obviously is the bigger seller right now. Pac obviously will never be that its quite clear. All you are comparing is smaller weights who was the better seller, which is immaterial to the argument. Welterweight is where all the money and spotlight is, Pacman will never be a welter.