Is Boxing In Better Hands With Pac as the P4P#1 Than it Was With Mayweather?

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  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Like I asked, how can we know how big a draw Mayweather was when the only two PPV's he sold were vs. Judah and Baldomir. You depserately want to include Hatton and DLH into Mayweather's drawing power. That's obvious. since you belive that, and don't want to discuss his selling againt Judah and Baldo, and lastley, you keep saying he will NEVER be. That's not your call. And you claiming that is based on NOTHING really.

    You're WHOLE Argument in this thread is basing Mayweather being better for the sport on a coup;le PPVs'. That alone should tell me how serious to take you. You've simplified your reasioning to that.

    I guess you don't take into consideration how many people walked out of his fight w/ Baldomir. How utterly dissappointing his SUPER fight w/ DLH was. How if he makes boxing better, why was Mayweather universally shunned for wanting a rematah w/ DLH and even Hatton? :huh Let be guess....haters?:lol:
     
  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Those aren't huge, but they aren't bad at all. Adds a little more prespective. :good
     
  3. Marc

    Marc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac used to be in the 350k range himself with Morales twice and Barrera.
     
  4. Spitbucket

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    Absolutely false!

    What you're doing is akin to claiming Samuel L. Jackson is a huge Box office draw simply because he was in Jurassic Park and the Star Wars movies!
     
  5. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    anyone who say floyd was NOT a draw is blinded by hate
     
  6. Marc

    Marc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He sold a couple of PPV's on his own, both in the 350k range. And Baldo was obscure trash.

    Says a lot about Floyd's pull.
     
  7. Spitbucket

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    That's a quite a bit different then some of the claims making PBF this huge PPV draw!
     
  8. Marc

    Marc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whether you like it or not he had a huge part making the Hatton and Oscar fights financial successes.

    You can't tell me Hatton would get that many buys against Collazo put on PPV, or Oscar against Yory Boy.
     
  9. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why the the hell the insistance that Pac clear out 135.
     
  10. muzkabeatz

    muzkabeatz Lurker Full Member

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    Don't cry man i know you love the mayweather's but it's pac's turn this time.
    Arguing with you would take forever. Your utter love with them will cloud every judgment that you will make regarding this topic.

    PBF is no doubt a DRAW. He even co-star with the WWE " The lame men's soap opera". :good
     
  11. Spitbucket

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    Works both ways!

    what do you think the numbers would look like had PBF had fought YoryBoy or Collazo? ...............DISASTROUS!

    The point is simple: Who would sell more tickets to shadowbox themselves, Pac or PBF.

    If I was an in investor my money would be on PAC!
     
  12. Marc

    Marc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd did 325k against Baldo, who is even more trash than Yory Boy and Collazo combined.

    I would put my money on PBF, as long as Pinoys aren't allowed in the venue.
     
  13. batang kanto

    batang kanto ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    the PPV comparisons isn't fair. the fight with judah and baldomir shouldn't be compared to pac's fight with larios and solis. judah was the top welterweight before he lose to baldomir and baldomir by the time he fought mayweather was the welterweight champ. those fights should have generated big PPV numbers if mayweather was such a big draw. whereas larios was a superbantamweight who was moving up to superfeatherweight and solis was just an undefeated unknown.

    traditionally, lower weight classes do not generate much buzz in the PPV department but pac and his opponents put those lower classes on the PPV map.

    finally, pac isn't an american while mayweather is and he fights in his own country. in the philippines, his fans not only order PPVs, they also line up at every theater available paying overpriced tickets just to watch the fights live even when he is fighting unknown boxers. for pac to compete with mayweathers PPV buys in the US is a feat alone.

    granted that mayweather generated more buys than pac, he is a disappointment for potential boxing fans. his fight with delahoya was all over the news and even causal americans who know nothing of boxing ordered the fight only to be disappointed and fall asleep. if pac was in the same situation of a superfight where even non-boxing american fans are tuning in, he would have made more fans than mayweather could ever dream of. the mayweather-hatton bout was admittedly exciting though but only in the later rounds. a pac fight against hatton would be exciting from beginning to end. but i agree mayweather would never dissapoint the true boxing purists. the downside is you have to be very familar with boxing before you truly appreciate what mayweather does.
     
  14. Spitbucket

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    :lol:
    Note to self: reference this post whenever anyone wants to argue the merits of Floyd's tenure at 147!
     
  15. Marc

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    Judah was coming off a loss.

    Baldomir was a journeyman lucky to be holding a belt. Other than that he was nothing. That it was even PPV was a sham.


    Barrera and Morales were already keeping the lower-weights PPV franchise before Manny came along