Is boxing really falling out of mainstream?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Martini643, May 7, 2008.


  1. Martini643

    Martini643 Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,457
    1
    Aug 31, 2004
    I'm not talking about the heavyweight... but the whole sport itself? With record ppv numbers for Mayweather-De La Hoya, Mayweather-Hatton, Cotto-Mosley, has boxing really fallen out of the mainstream like all the writers and commentators say?
     
  2. smoochp

    smoochp Da flyest1 Full Member

    4,082
    0
    Mar 1, 2008
    Funny is that I had a presentation today about the History and Marketing of boxing, and I came to the conclusion that UFC is just big a hell. Boxing needs to get back to network tv. But I belive that Tyson ear biting, corrupt Judging, and the best don't fight the best that often fouck boxing up. But I'm a fan 4 life
     
  3. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    16,706
    1
    Jul 19, 2004
    Its obviously not out of mainstream with those numbers its produced. I mean lets use RJJ-Tito as example. RJJ is 39 having lost his last 3 big fights 2 by violent KO most casual fans had no idea he had won fights vs Ajamu and Hanshaw. Roy was mearly an afterthought in the current boxing scene. Tito hadnt fought in 2 and half years after Winky Wright easily shut him out with a single punch. This fight still does 500,000 buys thats alot of homes that bought that PPV for a couple of fadded stars. I think Boxing is still very pouplar maybe not as much as it was but its sure not dead.
     
  4. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

    13,971
    14
    Sep 9, 2004
    Your weekly world title fight will never be as big as the weekly premier league football match or basket ball game but when a your once a year superfight comes along itll be bigger than both put together!

    There is a good sided to following a cult sport, you can feel superior when talking to your freinds (idiots) about the upcoming big fight and we also dont get too many people spouting off about 'their opinion' which is 9 times out of 10, stupid, innaccurate and embarrasing.
     
  5. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    16,706
    1
    Jul 19, 2004
    Yup UFC has great marketing plus in their sport bad scorecards rarely happen and the fighters are basically forced to fight each other as there are no sleezy promoters just match makers. Plus theres 1 Championship for every weight class and if theres a interm title then as soon as possible thats taken care of. If only in a dream world Boxing could drop all these pointless alphabet titles and go buy Ring Magazine and rid of all these piece of **** promoters.
     
  6. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    22,781
    355
    Aug 4, 2007
    The fact that there are SO MANY titles in each weight class make it so difficult for fans to follow the sport. I mean the terms, "former world champion" means almost nothing. It would be great if each weight class had only belt.
     
  7. smoochp

    smoochp Da flyest1 Full Member

    4,082
    0
    Mar 1, 2008
    Today must be my day, because this dude in class asked me do you think that so many belts is a problem? We need a heavyweight? But I do believe overall boxing is bigger in the world not just the US. And trust me its our fault. No fan of the UFC, but trust me thier best dofight each other. The ulimate fight>The Contender. Network TV is what boxing needs to do, so the consumer can grow with the fighter. Like Tyson, Leonard, Duran, and more.But the money they make out of these PPV is crazy. But once Mosley, Hoya, Jones, and most of the 90's stars retire its gone to be hard for boxing period.
     
  8. smoochp

    smoochp Da flyest1 Full Member

    4,082
    0
    Mar 1, 2008
    True but it wasn't bad when they had to because they were likey to unify. Plus were did all these belts come from like IBO, NABF?
     
  9. Chillman

    Chillman Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,912
    0
    Mar 4, 2006
    I don't think boxing has fallen out of the mainstream since its "rebirth" in the early 90's (Henry Maske) here in Germany.
     
  10. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

    22,296
    5
    Mar 14, 2007
    Pretty much. It hasn't been mainstream since Tyson went to prison.

    If anything, it's becoming more mainstream again though.
     
  11. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,073
    0
    Feb 16, 2008
    boxing isn't mainstream.

    it takes oscar to put it there but apart from that it certainly isn't a mainstream sport.
     
  12. TheGrimReaper

    TheGrimReaper Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,949
    0
    Sep 5, 2007
    it hasn't been mainstream since the 90's
     
  13. Bslice

    Bslice Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,044
    5
    Sep 11, 2007
    Exactly
     
  14. smoochp

    smoochp Da flyest1 Full Member

    4,082
    0
    Mar 1, 2008
    Europe hell no, but yes the sport is not doing well in the US. UFC is huge, especially in Vegas. At svhool everyone were tap out like its the way of life. But I really think fighters like Jones and Floyd messed it up as far a boxing being a business. Because alot of other fighters made money, but legacy was never question. But trust me once Tyson bit Evander ear it turned many people away
     
  15. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    17,407
    8
    Oct 8, 2007
    The more hype the better, thats what gets the average guys attention most. I remember everyone laughing at me for staying in to watch the Winky/Hopkins fight last year, then after they seen Hopkins smack Winky in face at the weigh-in, everyone wanted to come over my house to see it. There's a reason why Tyson stayed popular well after his prime, he was great behind a mic, and you never knew what he would say or do in and out of the ring.

    I feel we need more characters in boxing, guys that are willing to hype up a fight by calling there oppenent a ***** or a ***, and maybe starting a fight during a press confrence to get the average fan to watch. I know two friends that hate boxing, but after they saw Hopkins say he will never lose to a white boy, they were over my house watching the fight that night.