Is Buddy Mcgirt The Worst Championship Level Trainer Ever?

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  1. aceshigh

    aceshigh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He does do a good job of keeping his fighters hydrated.
     
  2. Chileno606

    Chileno606 Gentleman & Scholar Full Member

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    Did he really? :patsch :lol:
     
  3. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    I don't know if these two have been have been said, but Jack Loew and Ronnie Shields are pretty bad. Jack Loew has no other advice than "Double and triple the ****ing jab!" and Ronnie Shields was giving some poor advice to Juan Diaz vs Paulie in their rematch.
     
  4. cubex

    cubex Boxing Addict banned

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    Yes he did.Maybe not great but very good stuff.

    He took Arturo when he was past his best already made him train hard to make 140 and improving his offense if not his defense.
    Arturo went 7-3 with 4 KOs with Buddy while winning a world title and challlenging for another at a higher division.
    Fact is only time Buddy made a mistake with Arturo was with Mayweather but Arturo had way to many things going against him there to matter anyway.
     
  5. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    A fighter of his did knock out Roy Jones Jr, with the very punch Buddy thought Roy would be hittable with in that scenario.
     
  6. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Even the best trainers have some guys they just don't work out with(ex. Emanuel Stewart-Jermaine Taylor and Emanuel Stewart-Vivian Harris). McGirt did a pretty good job with Tarver, and Tarver let things go down hill, both in the Hopkins fight and in the first Glen Johnson fight. McGirt got all someone could realistically get out of Gatti, no trainer could have saved Gatti from the number Floyd did on him. And the Brewster-Klitschko rematch, Brewster never really recovered from the eye injury and Klitschko was becoming the fighter that Manny has turned him into today.
     
  7. Lindley

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    I second the fact that it is not realistic to label any one of these guys - Roach, Mayweather Sr, Steward - "great trainers". There is absolutely a chemistry between trainer and fighter. A quarterback is only as good as the receiver and the offensive line. So, in reality, a trainer can look good when the fighter follows his advice. Roach was the difference, definitely, in the fight against Cotto. There was this beautiful thing called a game plan, which Manny stuck to.
    The only negative I would stick to Buddy is that whole thing about stopping the fight. That did seem to be in too many fights, and he likely did that to motivate the guy, see if he really wanted it. Buddy does offer sound advice in the corner, but it seemed the "I'm going to stop it" was a last resort. Like was mentioned, maybe he will find that one fighter who he will blend with and make a champion.
    By the way, I have watched the Gatti/Mayweather fight a couple times. I think Gatti was doing pretty well in the first two rounds. If you watch that fight, Floyd was missing a lot and Gatti was doing ok. I think Gatti had a better chance if he became the Gatti of old and took the fight to Mayweather without trying to outbox Mayweather. now, that was the big mistake. Mayweather eventually took control but Gatti may have just not had it in him to go to war like the old times.