Is Butter a good source of fat?

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  1. death

    death Active Member Full Member

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    oooh thousands of years, really?
     
  2. tony mush

    tony mush Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    is this the ****ing inbetweeners or something? ohhh friend boxing friend thumbs up friend ooooh friend
     
  3. El Puma

    El Puma between rage and serenity Full Member

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    Oh sorry, 2.5 million years. Thousands being the refined stuff we have been eating since.

    The modern dietary regimen known as the paleolithic diet (abbreviated paleo diet or paleodiet), also popularly referred to as the caveman diet, Stone Age diet and hunter-gatherer diet, is a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutrition"]nutritional[/ame] plan based on the presumed ancient diet of wild plants and animals that various hominid species habitually consumed during the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic"]Paleolithic[/ame] era—a period of about 2.5 million years duration that ended around 10,000 years ago with the development of agriculture.


    Since the end of the Paleolithic period, several foods that humans rarely or never consumed during previous stages of their evolution have been introduced as staples in their diet.[10] With the advent of agriculture and the beginning of animal domestication roughly 10,000 years ago, during the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic_Revolution"]Neolithic Revolution[/ame], humans started consuming large amounts of dairy products, beans, cereals, alcohol and salt.[10] In the late 18th and early 19th centuries, the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_revolution"]Industrial revolution[/ame] led to the large scale development of mechanized [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_processing"]food processing[/ame] techniques and [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory_farming"]intensive livestock farming[/ame] methods, that enabled the production of [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refined_grains"]refined cereals[/ame], [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refined_sugar"]refined sugars[/ame] and refined [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable_oil"]vegetable oils[/ame], as well as fattier domestic meats, which have become major components of [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_diet"]Western diets[/ame].[10]
    Such food staples have fundamentally altered several key nutritional characteristics of the human diet since the Paleolithic era, including [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_load"]glycemic load[/ame], [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatty_acid"]fatty acid[/ame] composition, macronutrient composition, [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutrient_density"]micronutrient density[/ame], acid-base balance, [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium"]sodium[/ame]-[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium"]potassium[/ame] ratio, and [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber"]fiber[/ame] content.[10]
    These dietary compositional changes have been theorized as [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_factor"]risk factors[/ame] in the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathogenesis"]pathogenesis[/ame] of many of the so-called "diseases of civilization" and other chronic illnesses that are widely prevalent in Western societies




    Anyhow, if you have a better diet, I wouldn't mind hearing it nor wold anyone else here.
     
  4. pichuchu

    pichuchu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How much protien do you consume daily on average? And how much do u think a 133 pound person should consume
    I heard about that aswell but the number chances everytime i hear it :S
     
  5. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That number I'm getting from a book called 'The complet guide to food for sports performance', it's written by two people from the Institute of Sport over here, they have phds etc. and are the top people so they give their advice to Olympic gold medal calibre athletes.
    The book claims 10-15 grams after exercise with some carbs is ideal, the 20-25 grams is the upper limit somebody could actually utilize for it's main purpose without using it for energy and having surplus calories just for the sake of it.
    I have heard 30 grams before but I'd trust this source above all others.
     
  6. cheech

    cheech Well-Known Member Full Member

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    100% agree with el puma. Many boxers over work their body for weight purposes but fail to intake the correct type of food.
     
  7. elcasoshaun

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    Back in September, 2010 I knocked all cereals, refined vegetable oils and excessive fructose on the head and the effects have been unbelievable: all joint pain disappeared within 2 days (I had always thought that it was an inevitable consequence of doing loads of sport-especially at my rather advanced age- but the dietary changes showed me it had ****-all to do with it) and I went from needing to eat 6-8 times a day (always ravenous) to eating the way I do now; usually twice a day, and never suffering that awful, anxious hunger where you have to cram anything down your face just to get a bit of respite from the hunger.

    All other forms of inflammation went away: sinusitis, gum pain etc but the most incredible thing was my wife's colitis. She had suffered with it for 13 years and neither 4 specialists, 13 different types of tablets (including some steroids) nor some pretty nasty invasive treatments:shock: had fixed the problem. Eliminating the above mentioned foods did exactly that...until she got a bit complacent and during the Christmas holiday decided a local dish called a perelito (pasta, refined vegetable oils, sugar, the whole unholy trinity) might be do-able. Well, it wasn't and we barely eat any of that stuff now.

    There are loads of "camps" within Paleoland and it's getting pretty nasty between the academic types:lol: but there are a few who I still dip into occasionally: Dr Kurt Harris, the Jaminets, Masterjohn and Colpo are my recommendations for anyone looking to read up on it a bit.

    ETA Some days my current job as a translator/guide means I'm hiking, climbing, cycling, kayaking etc for up to 6 hours a day, and that's not including my own training and I can honestly say that I have never been fitter than I am currently at the age of soon-to-be 40.
     
  8. death

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    I think I have a much better diet as a matter of fact. At least much better for me. I do not like the paleo diet at all. It has even been debunked that cavemen never ate any grains of any kind whatsoever. Even so why would you want to emulate exactly what a caveman ate anyway?

    Breakfast: various fruits, eggs, sometimes with cheese, gigantic bowl of oatmeal with figs, and olive oil. I have been on a fig kick lately.

    Snack: nuts, fruit, various veggies maybe some more meat.

    Lunch: lean meats like fish, chicken, lean beef, goat, lamb, turkey, maybe some more eggs, etc...
    more various fruits. ie: blackberries, blueberries, bananas, strawberry's, figs, mango's, papaya, pears, apples, the list go's on. More veggies, broccoli, greenbeans, cauliflower, kale, ( I ****ing hate peas) sweetpotato's sometimes. Butternut squash is pretty good. and so on.
    Almond Butter sandwiches on whole grain bread with some walnuts, or pecans, or almonds etc... Or maybe some quinoa, or brown rice instead. Or even just some more oatmeal. And fig butter in there. I told you I was on a fig kick lately. I love me some goat's milk too. I try experimenting with all different types of spices in my meats like turmeric, cinnamon, ginger, allspice, nutmeg, cumin, curry, fennel, anise, basil, oregano, cayenne pepper, etc...

    snack it up later in the day with the same type ****.

    Dinner: Sort of the same as lunch: Lean meats, veggies, brown rice, or quinoa, with olive oil. Maybe another fruit or something. I mean I try and eat as healthy as I can. I eat like this day in, day out. It's a lifestyle. I'm sure I am forgetting something here, and there but you get the idea.

    I mean it seems like your on the same page it's just your diet is different than mine. I have tried the paleo diet and I don't care for it. I feel great on my current diet right now, and I think it's pretty decent. If that diet works for you than that's great! Different strokes for different folks. Nothing wrong with that my friend.
     
  9. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's a good diet there pal :good That's the important thing, being able to maintain it day after day without feeling that you're deprived of anything, energy especially.
     
  10. pichuchu

    pichuchu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nothing wrong with feeling your deprived of junk food? I agree with the energy though.
    Imo my diet is good but not too sure seeing as i have made many mistakes already nutrition wise. But i learned from them which is important
     
  11. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm talking about feeling hungry and bored of what you're eating, a diet high in fibre and good fats with a lot of variety will keep you full and satisfied. When you eat well and you're conscious of your energy requirements junk food isn't going to look too appealing.
     
  12. El Puma

    El Puma between rage and serenity Full Member

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    :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsupVery good stuff.

    :yep
     
  13. pichuchu

    pichuchu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hey puma anbd lefty you two seem nowledgeable to you mind checking over my typical diet? Any advice would be good, like i said i feel good on this diet and think its working for me but it could be because i had a bad diet a few months ago.

    Breakfast: typically porridge/ weetabix with milk and fresh fruit either separtly or i mix them together.

    Snack: depends on what ive done and the time. But anything from a sandwhich, small wholemeal bagel or a protien shake ( if im on my way home from a work out or run etc)

    Lunch: wholemeal pasta,rice and other grains with veg and chicken mostly (other meats sometimes) or a wholemeal bagel/ sandwhich with tuna or chicken or other meat and vegs.

    Dinner: Salmon or eggs or beef etc (i try to go for mainly fats and protien and not carbs at night)
     
  14. Kid Cincinnati

    Kid Cincinnati GOOD BOY NATION Full Member

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    Puma, could you explain a little more? Is it going crazy from eating what you don't like, or something else?
     
  15. death

    death Active Member Full Member

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    I don't crave junk food. If I crave a particular food it's something I am eating already within my regular diet. I just want to eat more of it. As previously stated by lefty, junk food does not look appealing when you know whats to come with training and all.