Is calzaghe one of the real greats?

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  1. sitiyzal

    sitiyzal ................. Full Member

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    huh? His natural talent was ridiculous.
     
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  2. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    i disagree. He had a lot of talent but it was not frightening. Don't get me wrong, this is meant more as a compliment to his work ethic than a knock to his ability. To get to where he was on the P4P list is an incredible feat, especially because personally watching him fight I did not see greatness. What I saw was a fighter with very good skills, hand and foot speed and an amazing ability to adapt to his opponents. He was skilled and smart but not a naturally gifted athlete on a jones or leonard level.
     
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  3. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I don't think so really. When I think of supreme natural talent, I think of someone like Roy Jones Jr. Calzaghe was a model profesional, who managed his career well, and had exceptional amounts of stamina, and a great work ethic, natural, god-given, Roy Jones-esqe talent? Not so much.
     
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  4. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    His natural talent is outstanding IMO.

    This is a guy that was sheltered away in a crappy old gym sparring Bradley Pryce and Gary Lockett every day. What he showed was amazing all things considered.

    Had he had proper tough sparring everyday that really pushed him to improve even more he might have been even better.
     
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  5. Kairos

    Kairos Member Full Member

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    Yeah, but he's manufactured and a coward.
     
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  6. Achilleslststnd

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    Those that believe Joe has ridiculous natural talent must suck at sports. lol
     
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  7. crespo21

    crespo21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and what the **** has dawson done exactly.?:rofl
     
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  8. Achilleslststnd

    Achilleslststnd Guest


    Yeah! That Dawson is a ****. If that ***** had only been fifty instead of 26 Joe would have called him out in a sec.
     
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  9. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    load of rubbish dawson aint done **** all and joe beat young title contender kessler not to long ago, if joe had beaten dawson nobody would have given a ****.
     
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  10. Achilleslststnd

    Achilleslststnd Guest

    lol .. put the your Joe doll back in the box .. it's late .. bedtime, Billy.
     
    Achilleslststnd, Mar 15, 2009
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  11. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you are a clown i have made this thread taking the **** out of enzo and joe yet you think i am a big fan of his :patsch:patsch
     
    rydersonthestorm, Mar 15, 2009
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  12. Achilleslststnd

    Achilleslststnd Guest


    Look, I didn't read every post (why would anyone ever do that?) so if I got your drift wrong my apologies. Last thing I want to do is trouble any one of the half dozen guys on ESB with sensible perspectives on JC's career. That would be like killing an endangered species. lol

    Here, watch Joe setting his record again and have a good laugh it will make ya feel better about the mistake:

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU3BpXNCyL4[/yt]
     
    Achilleslststnd, Mar 15, 2009
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  13. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's ok it was mainly a dig at enzo bloody trainer of the year when he couldn't train **** all, joe was without doubt a talented guy but anyone knows he didn't fight the best all the time or at the best times.
    I give joe a pass on sven ottke cause ottke was never gonna fight joe in a fair fight outside germany. I also give joe a pass on not fighting hopkins ealier as they had a deal agreed in 2002 (i think) and hopkins pulled out wanting double money. However anything else wrong with his legacy is down to himself and frank warren.
     
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  14. Achilleslststnd

    Achilleslststnd Guest




    Hmmmm ...:shock:
     
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  15. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's a HOFer, but not in my top 100.
     
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