Is Calzaghe the next Prince?

Amsterdam, buddy, exactly which fight or fights did Pavlik run out of gas??

 

JC vs Prime RJJ is NO WAY IN HELL LIFE AND DEATH. Just thought I would clear that one up. RJJ was demolishing people at 168. No way would he be going the distance with guys like Brewer, Bika, Salem and Ashira. RJJ at 168 was probably as close as possible to being an unbeatable fighter as we will ever see IMO. The way he fought against southpaw Antoine Byrd was phenomanel. No way in hell would the defense of Calzaghe hold up to that sort of onslaught.

 

IMO this is a super fight. On the same level of Shane v Cotto and Mayweather v Hatton. Two of the top guys in boxing battling it out. A regular championship fight would to me be a mandatory defence. A regular unification bout would to me be a couple of guys each with only one title, neither being particularly highly regarded looking to unify. A super fight is usually two guys with great records, excellent skills and big followings who want to settle who is the top dog in the division, and undisputed champion. If you think that this is an "ordinary" fight then I totally disagree.

 

I agree, reason being that I believe Pavlik to be a superior technical fighter then Andrade. Still they are very comparable as fighters, both willing to put their chin on the line and try to walk through their opponent.

 

Nice try, but I have already explained the primer thing to someone else in this thread, before you posted your first. If you don't understand my ill constructed sentences, at least read the explainations. Your own ill constructed sentence mixed RJJ and Toney into one question. JC would go life-and death with a slightly past prime(not the shell we see now). A prime RJJ would probably beat JC, at any point. JC would kill the prime version of Toney. It's about styles, not ability. Toney was an awesome fighter, but RJJ showed that he doesn't handle speed too well; he went into a shell, same would happen vs JC.

Hope you see what I mean. It's okay, that you don't agree with me, but explain why Toney would survive vs JC other than hook, hook whatever, because that is stupid.

 

James Toney is still a top fighter. I think its a bit early to start suggesting Kessler could beat some of these guys, as he really has yet to prove himself vs a top fighter. That said, style wise Kessler could give Toney a lot of problems, as would Calzaghe. I would pick prime B-Hop to be far too cagey for Kessler. He would take the fight inside where Kessler doesn't like to be, and thats where he would win it.

 

I have explained that its not prime RJJ I am refering to, I just wanted to make sure that people wouldn't think the RJJ of today, because that is given that JC would win that.

 

I'm willing to talk on this anytime. But Kessler is improving, has plenty more dimensions than people think.

You have to be able to control the pace to defeat Kessler, can Toney do it?

 

As I stated previously this **** is not a SUPERfight it is a unification fight....Only in the UK and in Denmark or wherever in the euro area is this fight big...Nobody even knows who the crap Kessler is in the casual world of boxing..A lot of die hards dont even talk about this fight..opposed to the other highly tauted fights this year..This is like the little engine that could of fights...two champions with skill but never really did anything to amaze the world or get the attention of fans throughout the world....

 

Good post. Both guys do things in the ring that are very hard for their opponents to adapt to, and that makes them very unique as fighters. With Roy I think it is fairly obvious, but with Calzaghe, the way he throws combinations in close quarters would be a nightmare for most fighters to try and counter. Fighting Calzaghe on the inside IMO would be extremely hard to do.

 

The whole world doesn't revolve around America. Just because this fight isn't big in the states doesn't mean it isn't a SUPER FIGHT. I would be very suprised if the PPV sales for this bout didn't out do almost all other fights this year excluding floyd v oscar. Do you ever take the time to ponder whether fights like mosley v cotto is going to be MASSIVE throughout Europe? I doubt it. Still doesn't mean that it won't be a HUGE fight though.

 

The Australians MUST be a fine people.

Their ancestors were selected by England's finest judges.

 

:good:good Thats it....I knew it..I That Amsterdam....he is sinister....We are on to your scheme..He is playing mind games...lol...The light has shined...Down with Amsterdam and his hooligan shananigans....atsch:nut He is buttering up Kessler to be a bigger roast then what he actually is...Amsterdam you sicko......Shame....shame...nononono

 

I actually think that Kessler could quite possibly beat Toney, but in fairness, with wins over MCallum, Nunn, Johnson and Barkley at 168 and under, Toney probably deserves a bit more credit until Kessler really faces a truely elite fighter.

 

Toney was never defeated by lesser fighters? Now take a horrible styles match up for him and a supremely skilled operator commanding the style with good speed and consistency.

It's going to be a nightmare for Toney even if he pulls a late KO rally...