Is Calzaghe's legacy going to take a MASSIVE hit in 2011-12?

Ward will need to go to canada and take butes 0 there, sometimes part of boxing is travelling to tougher envirnments and performing there, like him or not calzaghe did travel to the states and beat hopkins there, it adds a bit to the win imo

Ward now has a bit of a rep of a homeboy, say if froch had all his super six group fights at home as well as the semi and the final, on top of that tried to get not just home country but home area officials on his fights, there would be outrage in america. Froch has fought in denmark, finland and next up the states and then the states again if he wins. Thats a much tougher road than what ward has done, home advantage is the same in all sports and maybe even more so in boxing with its one on one nature. Ward has done well so far but the hype about him is just getting out of control.

 

look he beat Hopkins - live with it. Let it go and get a ****ing life.

 

Zaggers is an ATG.

 

Calzaghe was a good fighter who had a great career, but what exactly is his legacy?

I don't think he has one.

 

Calzaghe should be nicknamed the "White Ghost". He haunts Americans in his post fighting days like no other fighter.

 

well well well, what have we got here then :think

its the return of fragile ducker popkins under yet another username after i destroyed you and outed you on here :deal

theres no need for you to use another username or are you too ashamed to post under popkins after the pounding i gave you :vonnecunt

lets hope that under your new user name that you can grow a pair of bollocks and not duck questions you get asked

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This is someone who is severely hurt that Calzaghe beat Hopkins .

No Calzaghes legacy wont be hurt as he has beaten Hopkins and has a better resume than Hopkins even if Hopkins beats Pascal.
Who has Hopkins beaten that is better than Eubank or undefeated Kessler. Dont say former WW Trinidad. Trinidad may well be a better P4P fighter but he isnt a great MW and was put down 7 times that I know of before he fought Hopkins. So the answer is nobody and Calzaghe has that win over Hopkins.
You note Calzaghe has a better SMW resume than Jones and Toney but didnt note that Jones and Toney are 2 proven cheats and Calzaghe has a better LHW resume than Toney and a LHW win over Jones :smoke.
If Hopkins beats Pascal he will be the oldest title winner, which holds alot of credit, but it wont make his resume better than Calzaghes and wont erase that Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, with 3 American judges, Cortez as ref, in a new weight division sandwiched between Hopkins best wins of Tarver, Wright and Pavlik when Hopkins was Ring LHW champ, landing more on Hopkins than anyone ever and scoring the single highest card against Hopkins ever :smoke.

As for the S6 winner. How can they be equal to Calzaghe if they beat Bute?

Ward -
*would have a win over Kessler that Calzaghe beat when undefeated
*a win over Green, who is a less accomplished SMW than say Mkertchyan who Calzaghe beat and who had already been beaten by Miranda and lost by KO to Johnson in his last fight.
*beat Bika who Calzaghe beat years previously
*beat Abraham a former MW champ with no big name wins and who has admitted that he cant compete at SMW and was coming off of 2 very decisive S6 defeats, and has no SMW accomplishments at all and is a less accomplished SMW than Veit when Calzaghe beat him a second time
*Froch lost to Kessler who Calzaghe beat
*Bute whos may be better but resume wise isnt much better than Lacy, when you consider that Lacy had beaten world rated Vanderpool, world rated Tsypko (who beat Magee, Butes last opponenent), world rated Pemberton, Sheika, world rated Reid (who had beaten Bute opponents Brinkley and Magee), and Manfredo when Ring rated.
Things are very bias by The Ring for Ward as he was made Ring #1 ahead of Bute for beating either Green or Bika who Bute beat clearer previously and Ward doent have as good an overall resume as Bute.

Then remember that Calzaghe beat Woodhall, Reid, Mitchell, Eubank, undefeated Lacy, undefeated Kessler, Hopkins, Jones as well as other top 10 rated and world class SMWs in Bika, Manfredo, Brewer, Mkertchyan, Starie, Sheika when a top 10 SMW, Veit.
The Ring hyped Mitchell and Lacy and Mitchell achievement wise is similar to Ward.
Calzaghe also won and defended away in his career

46-0 WBO WBC WBA IBF Ring SMW titles and Ring LHW champ, winner of 24 world title fights

Kittikasem, you have to live with the fact that Calzaghe beat Hopkins and Jones and Americas 2 best SMWs of the decade :smoke.

The fact that Kittikasem is still hurt that Calzaghe beat Hopkins all these years later shows how hurt and bias he is

 

I find on ESB how resumes are never measured on what a victory meant on that night, its always what the beaten fighter goes on to do next meaning said victory is hardly ever upto scrutiny. Take Calzaghe's victory over Lacy, at the time Lacy was being touted as this, that and a big future star of American boxing, Joe utterly destroyed him that night inside the ring as well as out of it. People only rate that victory on what Lacy went onto do or rather what he didnt go onto to do, not what the victory meant at that very time. Its convenient for people to say Lacy was a hype job and a nobody and to ignore what he was built upto to be before fight night, its also convenient to forget Calzaghe was an underdog going into the fight. Great victory and why i avoid buying into the bull**** of Legacies fading in the years after a fighter has retired.

 

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