Is Canelo a better fighter then Chris Eubank Snr?

He didn’t fight pure fodder. Take a look at his resume there is more iron then just Watson and Benn.

 

Graham beat much better fighters then Saunders and its not even debatable.
Graham would have boxed Saunders ears off.

 

He never out-boxed anyone as quick as Saunders.

 

And vice versa. Who has Saunders met that had the speed or style of Graham?

 

Eubank jr had the same hand speed but not style, Canelo has Graham`s hand speed and even though Saunders lost he was starting to get on top when his eye got damaged.

 

Canelo is not as fast as Graham who relied on super fast reflexs

 

Canelo hand speed is very quick.
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@mark ant I see your game, You play possum a lot don't you?

 

I agree that's why I originally said I think Eubank has become underrated. Canelo has just fought and defeated more world class fighters and I think he's got a more complete skill set than Eubank. I don't think alot separates any of these guys to be honest at the top everything is a nitpick

 

You’re far too high on Canelo.

Sure, he’s a great fighter who’s now in his prime.

He has great technical skills. But he doesn’t have a landslide resume in his favour. Not when you break it down.

He’s also fighting in a weaker era and getting golden opportunities. The kind that Eubank didn’t get.

Eubank could have beaten everyone who Canelo has.

Canelo is never going to be the GOAT.

How many legit wins has he actually had?

Like BJS said a few years ago, he’s a master at fighting guys at the right time.

He waited GGG out. You know that he did. Whether or not it was more Oscar, he was more than happy to comply.

Everybody knows that GGG should have won the first fight.

He barely beat Lara.

Khan was knocked out by a C level LW and had no business at 155 pounds.

He beat a badly faded Kovalev who had almost been beaten by Yarde.

He’s cleaned out a decent but nothing special SMW division.

Credit to him for taking the Beterbiev fight, and we’ll have to see what the future holds. But as it stands, he’s done nothing to be separated from the ATG’s who’ve come before him.

 

Tony Thornton was a good fighter and the Ray Close fights were very controversial. But the truth is, Eubank was never the same after the Watson tragedy and the biggest mistake he made was to sign a huge fight deal with ITV/SKY, which burnt him out which saw him fight every few months. Canelo is extremely active, but he hasn’t fought every 2 months since he was young.

Upon closer inspection, Eubank was better than his resume suggests, whereas Canelo isn’t actually as great as what his resume suggests.

On paper, it’s a no contest in Canelo’s favour. But in reality, it’s much closer.

Canelo is the poster boy for the sport.

He’s took on the mantle from Floyd and he’s getting great opportunities and great exposure. But in terms of actual ability and the opponents that he’s faced, he’s certainly not levels above what Eubank was.

I think that Eubank at his best could have beaten everyone who Canelo has beaten, and I don’t believe that Canelo beat GGG.

A faded and injured Eubank almost beat the Big Cat at CW, so I believe that a younger, healthier version could have beaten the specific version of Kovalev who Canelo did.

Sure, Canelo’s on another planet to guys like Close, but again, Eubank just went through the motions, kind of like how Toney did against Tiberi.

I personally don’t think that Canelo has legitimately beaten anybody better than Watson or Benn.

I also don’t think that he’d definitely have been able to have have beaten Benn, Watson or Eubank himself.

Yes, Eubank was never for a minute even considered the best fighter in his division. But then look at who was in his divisions at MW and SMW back then.

If we put Canelo into the MW and SMW mix of the early 90’s, would he be the P4P no.1 fighter that he is today?

Not a chance.

He’d just be another very good-great fighter.

He wouldn’t be considered better than Roy Jones or Janes Toney etc.

Canelo is a great fighter and nobody can say otherwise. But again, he’s cherry picking his way through an easier era, gaining the exposure and the opportunities that Eubank never had.

H2H fights against the best versions of Eubank from MW-SMW would be competitive fights IMO, and not in any way easy victories for Canelo.

 

We’ll never know how great GGG was in his prime, as he never fought elite level competition.

What we do know, is that he beat a slew of B and C level guys, which included struggles against Derev and Jacobs.

What we also know is that he definitely beat Canelo in their first fight.

This is pretty much common knowledge.

So upon reflection, how great is Canelo?

You think that he’s on track to become the GOAT, yet he waited GGG out and then couldn’t clearly beat him.

You could argue that Derev and Jacobs gave GGG better fights.

 

I don't think that he beat him to be honest.

 

Canelo unequivocally has the superior resume, because he beat the best across far more weight classes.

I doubt that Eubank would ever be the p4p #1, because he never proved himself the standout, in any weight class.

Would Canelo have got past him at super middleweight, both at their best?

Not necessarily I would say.

 

He didn’t beat up and make GGG insignificant though.

Most people call that first fight a robbery.

Did he even beat Lara?

Eubank was never the man at MW or SMW, but then neither would Canelo have been in that era.

That era was on another level to the era that Canelo is now in.