Is Canelo a disgrace to the middleweight title?

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  1. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    I hate to play this card....because its one played by the many bumdog millionaire superfans....in a sorry attempt to explain the rightful backlash towards ggg....buttttttttt

    if cotto still held that belt....and danny Jacobs was the mandatory challenger that kept taking step aside money....and danny Jacobs fans whined about cotto taking cw defenses and asking Jacobs for a cw if he wanted a fight

    they be like "hey man cotto is the shot caller here....hes a big draw and a hall of fame fighter....cotto makes a lot of money...so danny Jacobs better get to 155 if he wants that strap"
     
  2. kk17

    kk17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's just lame
    It doesn't matter if Canelo fights Golovkin, Jacobs our your neighbour he holds a belt @ 160 it doesn't matter if Canelo prefers to weight 155 in the fight but his opponent should be allowed to weight a max of 160
     
  3. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    u know its true though....if it were jacobs waiting for that title shot youd all be telling him to grow a pair and fight on cottos terms because hes the a-side
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Here’s the problem with that : Khan thought having the fight at 160 would give Canelo too much of a size advantage, Khan said himself in an interview that he wouldn’t fight Canelo at 160. Khan would only take the fight if it were at 155.

    So you’re saying that Canelo’s opponent should be allowed to weigh a max of 160, but what you are not realizing is that Canelo’s opponent (Khan) wouldn’t agree to 160, only 155.
     
  5. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes and no. the original disgrace is Cotto, Alvarez just jumped in the opportunity to have a huge fight with Cotto.

    But he should now vacate, if he isn't fighting THE champ this year.
     
  6. ISPEAKUMTROOTH

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    Personally speaking,after watching boxing for the best part of 40 years,i want to see divisions being adhered to,and im sick of CW where belts are involved.
    If people want to dictate CWs,then they have no right to expect it to count towards a belt if they havent the ***** to go to the limit.
    And its nothing to do with GGG holding all the belts for me,its upholding the integrity of the sport which is in short supply imo.

    Just the way i see it.
     
  7. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ironically enough in spite of the weigh non sense, Canelo is really the most legit Champ at Middle.

    Beating Cotto was/is better than what Saunders did for his WBO Title, and Golovkin never even won the Real WBA Title, amd beat one of the biggest paper champs in recent time for the IBF.
     
  8. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ginger is so protected.
     
  9. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How was beating Cotto @ 155 was a more legit middleweight win than beating Andy Lee and Chris Eubank @ 160? And how exactly the former WBA champ choosing to drop his title rather than facing him makes Golovkin a less legit champ? And finally, what makes Lemieux who won his title by soundly beating a legitimate top10 middleweight one of the bigger champs when we have titlists who reign without ever fighting anyone ranked in top10-15 in their division?
     
  10. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Eubank wasn't for a title and is still really a prospect, Lee was a decent win but Lee couldn't even sniff a title in the Martinez/Chavez era dude came up because MW sucks even more now.

    Im not interested in the ducking stuff they try to protray when its been seen over and over that GGG will either side step or make excuses why big fights can't happen, a fighter can't duck you if you agree to not fight.

    As for Lemeiux he has never fought or beat an elite fighter ever, that fact y'all consider him a top MW should speak to how cr@ppy the division is. N'Dam wasn't no Champ am was like a fight removed from being dropped 6 times by Quillin.

    You can make all the excuses or reasons for why but Cotto is the only one who actual beat a Champ for a Title and Holding wins over Marvella/Geale as well as making some think he was competitive vs Canelo blows out anything those guys have done in their career.
     
  11. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't like what he's doing with his new 155 weight-class, but let's see what happens when he and Oscar negotiate.
     
  12. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't understand why Canelo is such a big star in the first place.

    Good boxer but he got so many gift decisions and isn't really convincing yet. I don't think he's that entertaining to watch either.
     
  13. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    They are all jokes...it's just that Wrangello is the current joke. Just because it was done to him doesn't make it right for him to do it to others. 2 wrongs don't make a right.
     
  14. ElCyclon

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    Please tell us about the MANY gift decisions Canelo received.
     
  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Both Lara & Trout beat him. Oh he's the new Mayweather alright
    got officials in his pocket:good